mack (guest) 06 Mar 2009 12:02
how about radial motion?
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mack (guest) 06 Mar 2009 12:02
it'll quite possibly create a whirlwind, or the danger of shrapnel, or even gravitation to occur. Maybe more of a vibrator?
This NEEDs testing
- Dr. Meliodas
SCP-289 is an irregularly shaped mass of hematite (Fe2O3) with an approximate composition of 48% Iron, 17% Aluminum, 12% Phosphorous, and 4% trapped H2O, with the remaining 23% composed of a standard combination of trace impurities.
If it is hematite, then how can it be composed of Aluminium and Phosphorous?
Beyond that, the percentages add up to 104% (does the water not count?), and 23% is way too large a chunk to be considered "trace".
Chemistry aside, very well written and executed.
[Edit:] Never mind about the composition; I think I got that taken care of.
I think "increases inertial mass" works much better than "increases inertia".
I know this discussion is 3 years old, but still. Given that this is classified as a Safe SCP, the level of precaution in storage and personnel assigned seems excessive. Also, does SCP-289 affect itself? I suppose not, in that it would have become completely unmovable itself after a long enough period.
And the tether it was attached to would have been affected by the SCP as well - although I suppose they could have stabilized it by keeping it steady before beginning transit, it seems more likely that the motion of the helicopter would cause it to swing, and then be continually affected by the SCP until the tether swung in an arc high enough to impact the helicopter rotors - sending the SCP flying off and away.
I am apparently in a very quibbling mood today.
You're 100% correct on the storage precautions. I think I wrote this before the general consensus of "locked box" storage for Safe SCPs was decided on. I'll rework the first section in the near future.
As for the tether, my thinking was that as long as the helicpoter maintained a steady forward motion at the same speed, the inertial buildup would keep 289 fairly steady and bypass most of the sway. Landing could be tricky, but really all that would be necessary would be letting 289 impact a sturdy wall before landing the helicopter.
Ok, removed the requirement for constant monitoring by multiple personel, changed it so that someone watches the recorded video at high speed occasionally and archives it if anything occurs. That should make it work better for a Safe SCP.
I'd change it to Euclid at this point. Little testing had been done, and containment is apparently expensive (given the regular relocations with entire sectors of facilities needing to be essentially "shut down"). Debates welcome.
Edit, alternatively, you could work with 173s containment team, using it to contain 173 as suggested by Rokonuxa, and change it from "Safe" to "Thaumiel".
- Dr. Meliodas
this is just an idea but if you tape it on 173 shouldnt it make 173 crash into an wall or
make it immobile? it sure would be fun to watch that…
*blinks* nothing happens… “is it broken?“
This is actually Brilliant. Cthulhu1138, make this happen and change 289 from "Safe" to "Thaumiel"
- Dr. Meliodas
Stated in this article, it says that something that maintains it's movement in the presence of SCP-289 for greater than 800 seconds will no longer be able to be stopped. Theoretically, this means that the device or being witnessing this is expressing a nearly unlimited amount of torque, so I suppose that you could write of a test where someone builds an "inertia generator", based on a gyroscope or other rotary implement that would work off the principle of this SCP. And even if it doesn't actually mean that the inertia is infinite, and eventually will slow down by experiencing force, simply re-exposing the mechanism to the SCP, could very well act as a way to recharge it. A vehicle with an inertial drive core and a specialty gearbox could be used as a new form of transport, or an electrical generator can have it's pinion engaged by an inertial core. The possibilities seem to be nearly endless in this way, and could very well be written about, and I feel that an SCP as interesting as this deserves that kind of depth. Thank you for giving me something so fun to think about!
A brilliant response to this SCP, though it is very unlikely any of the staff members would ever allow for this.
- Dr. Meliodas
Has anyone else noticed the large amounts of the number 17? Site-17, 1983 (17 years before 2000, bit of a stretch), 17%, 17 minutes during the recover, item # 289 (17^2), and more I probably missed. Was this just a coincidence, or was it on purpose, and why?
Holy crap! That's a complete coincidence and I never intended it when I was writing the article, but now that I look back at it you're absolutely correct. Good catch! That makes for an interesting interpretation of 289, though. Perhaps it is not actively increasing inertia, just increasing the localized importance and occurrence of the number 17 and the inertia thing is a side effect of it locally messing up the physics formulas.
Wouldn't this thing increase the rate of blood flow in any nearby personnel to lethal levels?
Based on testing, I'd say blood is an exception to the rule. Perhaps this fact could be used in containing it?
- Dr. Meliodas
This… needs to be kept in motion, constantly changing. Moving it in a circle constantly changes the angle of momentum, so inertial buildup shouldn't be a problem. It will NOT make a cyclone, momentum doesn't "circle".
Moving it every 30 days is… impossible. 30days*24hours*60minutes*60seconds/160 seconds.
Inertia will increase to a factor of 1.17^16,200
That ends up being 4.08*10^1104. More than 40,000 *((1 googol)^11) times it's normal inertia. You are NOT getting that started again.
Just put the platform moving in a small, slow circle, with the stone in a padded receptacle, and the backup room used in case something breaks. Possibly move it every 30 days anyway for maintenance.
The idea is very entertaining, as is the description of the recovery, but that huge pointless note at the end combined with the lack of much substance leaves me wanting.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
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