SCP-2027 / Discussion

This is the discussion related to the wiki page SCP-2027.

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Chubert 08 May 2014 02:48

Neutral vote. There is a lot that could be done with this idea…some of which already has be done, so you might be treading into overused territory, but it's better that there be overused content than any content at all. The article isn't very interesting, but not uninteresting enough for me to downvote. The writing is competent-ish, or at least nothing stood out to me as a glaring error.

How does the Foundation know that this is an organism? How are we getting a good enough picture of this thing to tell that it looks like a Man'o'war?

DrLucan 08 May 2014 02:50

It doesn't look like a Man O' War, it's biology is similar to one, being made out of several zooids. We don't have a good enough image to tell exactly what it looks like, just that it is made up of several zooids.

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Cosmonauts 07 Jan 2017 04:33

Honestly, you can never make something "original", or something that will make old timers happy.
They will always say:

• "Its been done before."
• "Stale idea."
• "Cliche."
• "Too many of these SCP's."
• "Good writing, as for originality, not good."

They'll also probably say something along the lines of "Its not clinical enough."

ProcyonLotor 07 Jan 2017 04:37

Considering that I've been here some five years, and I see unique and original shit posted all the time, this is utter bull.

Zyn 07 Jan 2017 04:42

What even is an old timer anymore?

Cosmonauts 26 Mar 2017 06:39

Old Timer refers to someone who has been involved in a certain position for a long period of time who believes they are an "Elite" of sorts, thinking they have knowledge of everything, and that they are somehow superior than newer users.

For example, I was an Old Timer of various Garrys Mod servers, Forum Groups, and writing groups. The Writing Group is what made me an "old timer" class individual, constantly believing I was above newer members. The Forum Group only solidified this belief, making me have the mindset that I was a dictator of sorts. I was promoted to a Moderator of the group, which boosted my ego, making me feel even more like the Leader, and considering I was the last "Oldie" member left, I felt like I was the supreme master of the group.

The group died off shortly after. Everyone moved on to more productive things. I did too, and I really regret falling into that kind of mindset.

TL:DR, an Old Timer means someone who thinks just because they have stayed in a position longer than you means that they are always going to be superior to you in every single way.

Wilhelm Klink 08 May 2014 03:07

Ah space cow, I remember thee from the draft forums. Seems like an alright idea. It's just bland cuz ya know, it's just a space cow. There's nothing really compelling about it.

I did sense some room for expansion in the end. The idea of them being intergalactic wildebeest moving about, feeding on radiation.

DrLucan 08 May 2014 03:11

I think I have a new record. Only 2 Downvotes in 30 minutes!
Crisis mode! Quick! I need to make it better! Suggestions?

higans 08 May 2014 04:11

These are a few suggestions that i think will make the SCP better. The first one is minor, but you should make it much closer to earth (one light year is to far for something that small).

Next, it needs to have a reason to be contained beyond the fact that the public can't know about it. Your SCP really cant be Keter based on what it is right now.

nothing stands out about it, maybe add some twist on the fact that it is a giant space jellyfish (though, i think your idea has potential).

Those are just the things that can improve it, i actually got slightly scared when i read through. also the concept is not bad (albeit slightly cliche).

but still i liked it. +1!

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dankaar 08 May 2014 03:13

It doesn't pose an immediate threat to anything but normalcy as written. Therefore, it is Euclid at best, not Keter.

How fast does this thing move? It should only be approximately one LY away from us if that was its closest point. Otherwise, it'd be moving at extremely high velocities. Regardless, it should only use it's jets to make course corrections; Newton's Laws will keep it going otherwise.

How did we find it? If it measures only several hundred kilometers in any single direction, we can't see it if it's a light year away. It's simply too small.

How did we confirm that it's made of zooids, if we can only observe it with telescopes?

How do we know a GRB hit it? Just because we detect one occurring about the same time it started spinning, it doesn't mean that the two are linked in any way.

Finally… why should I care about this Space Jellyfish? What's the story?

Downvote.

Cosmonauts 07 Jan 2017 04:39

You should care about it for the same reason you care about a statue that moves when you're not looking.
You aren't supposed to.
I guess I should remind everyone that this isn't NASA. This isn't Space X.
This is The SCP Foundation. The most powerful organization on the planet. If you can contain nearly 3,000 SCP's, keep the world from being obliterated, and manage all of those said sites without the public having much knowledge about it, then you can also probably build some great telescopes.
Hell, they have a machine that can completely replenish the population (SCP-2000), so I wouldn't doubt any of the Foundations capability.

dankaar 09 Jan 2017 14:54

Here's a relevent post I made later on, and this one too that discusses in detail some issues with the SCP that was made after it was posted (and has since changed.)

Long story short, if the Foundation has telescopes to see this thing that's outside of our solar system, containment of any SCP should be a non-issue because the tech level of the Foundation is simply that advanced.

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Anaxagoras 08 May 2014 04:26

One light year away? And we're observing it with fine enough detail to get that much about its biology? Hell, we're able to observe a small nonreflective object at all? Given that this thing would take millennia to get to Earth, if it were even trying to, and is probably only observable using anomalous technology to begin with, I'm not sure why this as much as Euclid. For that matter, why it's even an SCP at all, rather than just a weird thing the Foundation assigns one guy to keep an eye on.

And how can we possibly tell changes in velocity of less than 100 m/s? That's basically nothing. This thing is a hundred kilometers across. 100 m/s is a change in velocity of one body length every three hours.

Smapti 08 May 2014 04:42

This could use a little polishing, but I like it. It's short without being too short and it has just enough "Huh, that's interesting" in it to make me want to know more.

Also, I never knew before that an individual man o' war was in fact more than one discrete organism, and any SCP that actually teaches me something can't be all bad.

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Communism will win 08 May 2014 07:36

Why should I care? It's just an alien thing off in space doing something.

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if your reading this your gay

Smapti 08 May 2014 08:53

What, that's not enough? "An alien thing off in space doing something" is by the very merit of its existence a major challenge to everything that non-anomalous science knows to be true.

Anaxagoras 08 May 2014 13:06

I dunno. It's pretty easy to envision a spaceborne organism. I doubt it would be as active as this, or likely to leave a solar system, but I don't see anything inherently impossible about it.

Po-ta-to 08 May 2014 08:43

Sorry, this doesn’t do it for me. What’s the hook?
I really wanna like this, the idea of a zooid space shuttle is kinda cool, but it just doesn’t do anything.

DrLucan 08 May 2014 20:40

Hook added.

orexis 08 May 2014 09:09

I had to downvote when i read:

it is impossible to contain

physical containment may not be possible, but keeping it out of public record and use of disinformation is a form of containment.

SCP-2027 was upgraded to Keter at this time.

but its still Euclid. it would probably be better if you mentioned a reasonable distance that would result in a reclassification, or alternatively if more instances of 2027 where spotted.

Other than that I like the idea a lot.

DrLucan 08 May 2014 11:19

Fixed.

orexis 08 May 2014 13:10

much better! +1 from me.

I think some of the others may be after a bit more of a hook, possible some side effect witnessed to planets / starts / other celestial objects that are close to 2027

A Random Day 08 May 2014 10:30

So… it is a giant jellyfish made up of smaller jellyfish?

As far as things go, this article is kind of dull. Nothing actually happens with this organism. It's just floating off in space.

It's important to note that 1 light year is almost 10 trillion kilometers, and almost a quarter of the distance to our next closest star Alpha Centauri. With this distance, calling it Keter or even Euclid seems unnecessary. There needs to be something else to justify its classification or it needs to be lowered.

Gamma Ray Burst should not be capitalized. Don't capitalize the second article A in Addendum 2.

Say that the mass of matter was designated SCP-2027-1 instead of putting it in parentheses(which, should also not be capitalized).

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