You forgot about the pills used after 107 re-emerged. That subtracts from the count, as well.
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DAMN IT. I missed that. Holy crap. That's a lot of pills. I think a retcon is in order.
041 was given a pill. The other 17 personnel were put in cryostasis. They're slowly dying, which risks release of 107, but for now, it's contained.
Would I need the authors permission to use one of these pills in a SCP i'm writing?
No, and you hit reply in the wrong spot.
if your reading this your gay
I realized after I posted that I hit the wrong spot… It wouldn't let me delete my own message :( or at least I don't know how to.
I note that the summation remains rather inconsistent… (these are my notes before amending the article, so if I make a mistake someone can fix it easily.)
Review:
START: 59 pills.
- An unknown number of pills, probably either 1 or 0, is attempted to be used by Level 3 personnel.
- 1 pill approved for testing on 914.
- Three pill requests are denied.
- "A series of tests" with 008 occur.
OFFICIAL COUNT: 54. So far, we're consistent (although I'm skeptical that the Foundation would use three or four valuable pills all in experimentation on the same disease).
- 1 pill (inferred) used on SCP-409.
COUNT: 53.
- 1 pill (inferred) used in tests with SCP-107. 107 neutralized.
COUNT: 53, SHOULD BE: 52.
- Pills used on SCP-038 and returned. No net pill change
- 1 pill used on SCP-041.
COUNT: 52, SHOULD BE: 51
- 1 pill used on SCP-231-4.
COUNT: Inconsistent - "fifty-one (12)". SHOULD BE: 50
- 1 pill used in Experiment 447.
COUNT: 50, SHOULD BE: 49
- 1 pill used on SCP-208.
COUNT: 49, SHOULD BE: 48
- 1 pill used in SCP-914.
COUNT: 48, SHOULD BE: 47
- 2 pills used in Project Olympia
COUNT: Inconsistent - "forty-seven (46)". SHOULD BE: 45
- 2 pills used in Experiment 217-Phi-Sigma
COUNT: Inconsistent - "forty-five (44)". SHOULD BE: 43
I am adjusting the numbers accordingly.
There's still a problem with the addendum numbering ><.
As for the number used with 500 for 008 tests… I picked the number five because the reference did say "series of tests". I was as skeptical as you, but I kinda justified it in my mind that the Foundation was little looser with the protocol when these first got 500.
We need to include in this number those aforementioned D-class thefts. I don't think that should be too many. One, two maybe.
How's this sound.
COUNT:59
SCP-500 is tested on three D-class personnel. These tests use three (3) pills. This establishes 500's ability.
COUNT:56
SCP-500 is used in two instances to establish its healing properties, one early in the infection, another after zombification has taken place.
COUNT:54
Edit: No, that doesn't make sense either. 59 after establishing propery, two used in tests with 008. I'm gonna write a note too about a Level 3 Agent attempting to use 500.
What's you guys' opinion on this as a candidate for the picture of 500?
http://divineerror.deviantart.com/art/The-Truth-5683899
Good picture, just looks a bit "computery" if you know what I mean. Also, several pills seem to be floating.
I thought they had been sort of thrown in from the side?
What serious computery graphics person would pass up such an OBVIOUS opportunity to include motion blur? In fact, come to think of it, where the hell is the lens flare?!
"Personnel playing marbles with SCP-500 WILL be disciplined. This is a valuable resource, not a toy."
I think we should advance 500's storyline, and have someone make a breakthrough in terms of replicating the effects of the drug. Not something that'll solve the supply problem or anything that'll replace the cloned fruit copies, since after all, if you can just clone 500 a few times and force feed someone pills until they manage to hit that 30% efficiacy, that's effectively a solution right there. I'm just thinking something that pushes forward the idea that we're always working on analyzing and replicating the beneficial effects of any SCPs we find. And I think 500 is a great one to have 'breakthroughs' on.
Hell, pick a disease in reality that doesn't have a cure yet and say that it's been cured by a derivative of 500 that we can make in a lab.
I think you may be missing the point of this site. There is no story to advance. These are simply articles of the strange things the Foundation is keeping under wraps. While yes, people do write stories based on them, these stories are no the focus of the site, and, in most cases, are not actually considered 'canon' for the SCPs themselves.
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I know, but I think it enriches the entries to develop them like that, otherwise I wouldn't have suggested it. I'm not actually referring to the stories written about the SCPs either, I'm referring to the actual SCP entry. The same way people add new items to SCP-294 and the like. SCP-500 just happens to be one of the most powerful and interesting SCPs available on the site. My references to the storyline are not me referring to any sort of overt storyline that you or the others have created, just the fact that with each new SCP the setting grows and changes, and you've already shown that the SCP entries themselves aren't completely static entities. The site grows its own storyline, just by existing.
Hmmm… That makes sense, but I'd ask the community in general before even attempting a change like that.
Are teh last two addenda important enough to keep them?
Addendum 11 is superfluous without the experiment log.
Or, is it better for mysteriousness's sake to leave the redacted test log and the reduced number of pills?
And, I'm confused about Addendum 12. Is there a reason for it/am I missing something?
I can't help but wonder why Dr. Gears would have tested SCP-500 with SCP-914 *twice*, so far apart in time.
EDIT: Sorry, Dr. Gears did the first one, then the second one created SCP-427
Another question, are these gelcaps or packed?
Either way, has anybody used one to see how small amounts of 500 work at curing things? Diluted in drinking water might cure mild regular illnesses, or small shavings to repair minor damage.
Also, the description itself is kind of short…does it only cure infections and diseases, or can it cause actual physical regeneration too? Say somebody had their finger cut off, or something..
(You know, I came here specifically to ask those questions. Damn you, Kendrakirai.)
What about a note re: analyzing patients' excreta for metabolites and possible unmetabolized residue which can be re-used?
Seriously. This was done with the first patient cured by penicillin: because more penicillin wasn't available, the hospital reprocessed it out of his urine. Kept him alive for an extra two weeks that way.
If you guys can turn something entertaining out of that thought experiment write it up. A note about at least -checking- for unmetabolized residues sounds like a good thing in that most people might not consider that and its a bit squicky.
But don't forget that SCP-500 had near Kill-682 status for awhile as people tried to figure out ways to test or cheat this cure-all, see Addendum 500-12.
I don't think I can express how wrong this SCP feels for the site. If I had free reign to delete any one SCP, this would be it. I imagine the pre-posting chat discussion going like:
Poster- "Hey, I should make an SCP that's a magic pill that cures everything."
Dr X- "No no, that's just a silly contrivance that has no creativity or mystery, and would ruin a lot of SCPs just by saying 'fix it with 500'"
Poster- "Oh… well what if there is a limited number of them?"
Dr X- "upvote"
But wait, now it's not even all that limited. 30% of SCP-500-038 clones are fully effective. Pop 9 of those and you have a respectable 96% chance of being cured. So now it's just a magic pill that cures everything. It's not even an SCP at this point, an anomalous object at best. At worst, it's a wonder drug with an unknown source.
Well, for one thing, it doesn't cure everything, only diseases. For the second, this is one of the REALLY old articles, moved over here from the old site, back when we weren't quite as focused on horror.
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Thanks for the info. I wouldn't slight it for not being horrific (914 and the vending machines are great). But I have a strong feeling this wouldn't go far if it were newly posted today.
Also Ninteen45, generally when someone is talking about how an SCP "feels", they aren't trying to imply objectivity. If you believe it's more than "just a magic pill that cures everything [diseases and 409]", I'd love to know how. It would be a lot more appealing to me if I understood how it was more than that.
This never bothered me that much, though if there were more SCPs like it I'd be seriously annoyed.
The hint that the pill might create some form of mental compulsion that the Foundation has chosen to ignore - because, goddammit, these pills are so fucking useful - is really interesting. If someone followed up on that idea, this article could get REAL interesting.
I think I'd happily upvote this if it had -any- interesting and/or mysterious side effects.
Maybe people within X meters of it become obsessive hypochondriacs who believe they have some serious illness and will lie, cheat, steal or kill to get what they believe is a life-saving dose of SCP-500.
You know, anything that makes it an actual SCP instead of a very effective medicine.
If it was just a very effective medicine it could be reproduced.
I always liked it because it is an unambiguous good thing that has been stolen away from the rest of the world by a secret conspiracy of bureaucrats who have experimented on it, wasted some and then basically locked the remaining supply away forever on the notion that there is a limited amount so no one can have any more at all.
Damn that stupid conspiracy. They obviously can't do anything right.
Quit pretending your subjective opinions are factual.
This article works rather well, and has been linked and cross referenced several times.
Not only that, the article works under the weird and interesting. It's an ontological mystery pill.
Play nice, kiddo. He's allowed to dislike any article he damn well pleases.
(account deleted)I never really liked the "repeated dosing" thing. I think it would be weirder (and less useful), if all cloned pills had the same chance of working. That is, if you take the first cloned pill to cure your lung cancer and it doesn't work, no clone will ever work on your lung cancer.
Or maybe just give the 10% chance of complete failure an additional downside. If the cloned pills don't cure it, nothing ever will. You now have influenza for the rest of your life. Even if repeated dosage rerolls, you'd have about a 25% chance of making the disease permanent instead of curing it.
This is a request to temporarily take two pills of SCP-500 for use with SCP-914. I feel that I may be able to refine SCP-500 to the point where it is either not needed, or needed rarely. Please answer with efficiency in mind.
inb4 yoric yells that we're not a roleplaying site
Write something up and it better be good or else it will likely be deleted and ignored. Messing with old SCPs for cross testing isn't easy to do unless you make something incredibly awesome that no one else thought of before.
It'll be good. I already used one SCP-500 for the SCP-914 experiment (at least one person said that the latest experiment was good), but when I made a note of it here (minus one pill, etc. etc.) it got deleted. The SCP-914 experiment is still up.
The 914 test logs aren't edited as regularly, so don't take the experiment not being deleted as an endorsement.
Honestly, if your actual goal is to "refine SCP-500 to the point where it is either not needed, or needed rarely" then you should just stop and not do it. We don't want to refine SCP-500. That's not the point of this wiki.
If your 500/914 test produces something that is interesting to read it will be accepted but I think you'd have a better shot at coming up with a cool idea of your own and writing an original SCP instead of playing mashup with old stuff.
These old articles are touchy subjects. Many of them aren't even all that good anymore as far as current standards go, but the ones that played a big role in establishing the idea of the fictional Foundation are kept around both for nostalgic reasons and so we can boot out anything that covers the same tired old ground.
Edit: I just read the 914 test. Sigh.
No, I mean I want to create an object with the good effects of SCP-500, plus some good effects of some other things, with side effects to match (i.e. horrible). For instance, it's usable many times, but it causes the subject to go into paranoid delusions for a month.
Dude, your test didn't even need 500.
I wanted something that gives good effects (oxy high x1000, cures all diseases) plus bad ones (speed psychosis, sleep for a week, etc.)
Then use steroids
Nice idea!
Wait, haven't we already done this and made the necklace-thing that started spawning death-flesh-monsters?
Yeah, I don't think the Foundation is particularly eager to try this again. Think about in-canon plausibility of a cross-test first (let alone the OOC reasons not to do it.)
Posit a humanoid SCP with… some kind of very useful superpower.
Give him/her some kind of debilitating, inoperable, and soon to be lethal brain tumor (or whatever).
Give dying SCP a dose of SCP-500 in hopes that we will be able to continue testing after recovery.
Discover that not only is SCP now cured of cancer, SCP no longer has the superpower.
(For bonus points, this is discovered when the SCP is accidentally killed during a test.)
Yes? No?
Might make a good Foundation Tale, though I would suggest using syphilis rather than a brain tumor. It's semi-canonical (see Bright, above) that 500 mainly treats diseases, and the advanced stages of syphilis can cause significant brain damage.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
I agree with Drewbear. It's a story, not an SCP.
Well, yes. My point is, can I use a dose of 500 for this putative story.
My understanding is that anything goes in a Foundation Tale. They're almost always totally non-canonical, so as long as you don't edit this page to say that another pill was used to cure this guy, you should be golden.
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