The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Summary:

The armies of Yaldabaoth and some head canons while we are at it.

The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Baronjoe 24 Jul 2018 01:57

So what are some of your head canons about Yaldabaoth? What are the things Yaldabaoth has at her disposal? I head canon she is locked away but still has her ways to interact outside her prison. Also she is a conquer of sorts and not mindless as some may think for she is very intelligent. Anyway, the things at her disposal and associated headcanons:

• Her Six Archons: Her children, they go about and spread her influence and rule the places she conquered. They are very powerful. I also head canon that her relationship with them is very motherly but sometimes questionable. She doesn't tolerate mistakes very much.
• Grand Karcist Ion: For me, Ion is nothing but a puppet that doesn't even know he is just a pawn. Nonetheless, he helped fantastically in wiping out the Daeva for they were going to be a problem, especially how some worship the Scarlet King. It made Earth a little easier at the time for when Yaldabaoth comes. Same can be said for the Klavigars except for Nadox.¹
• Ambassador of Alagadda: I head canon that the Ambassador is another poor fool falling for the promises of Yaldabaoth through her Archons. Another pawn. The ruined part of Alagadda is a remnant of Yaldabaoth's attempts (also from Pattern Screamers but that's another story) at conquering Alagadda before her imprisonment. A new approach was taken and the Ambassador now conspires to over throw the Hanged King of Alagadda.
• SCP-2610: I head canon that the "angel" that visited SCP-2610-A (Simeon Avakian) was just an Archon attempting to establish a new pawn with the usual fancy persuasion. They are hardly of much use for Yaldabaoth now.
• SCP-3288: The Archon I headcanon previously I also head canon is the same entity the 3288 instances call "The Empress."

There is a lot of other things to mention but I like to hear what you all have to share. I'm curious.

Footnotes

1. I have a head canon about Nadox that he saw what was really happening. He was not like the others because of how he was described and in my head canon played a role in the fall of Ion. It is a long story.

Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

mlister 26 Jul 2018 18:08

I've hinted at my headcanon a bit in The Thing at the Bottom of My Dreams and SCP-475¹, but to put it in easily digestible bullet-point format

• Yaldabaoth might have been a great predator once, with a mind too alien to be merely bestial, but those glory days are gone. They're chained, decomposing, and feasted upon.
• The Archons, children of Yaldabaoth and Mekhane, have Mysterious Plans in the works to save themselves from an eternity in a rotten husk. Their plans revolves around Ion, but they've each started grooming an heir in case he fails.
• The Archons have manifest themselves in many ways, including in human mythology. SCP-3000 is one. SCP-1730 is another.
• Ion is a pawn. A powerful pawn, but one who thinks the Archons are his trusted friends. As a result of him being Grand Karcist and having achieved Apotheosis, every Ion in every timeline who also achieves Apotheosis is merged and integrated into the main one in extra-dimensional Adytum.

Footnotes

1. Yes this is shameless advertising

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Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Cyclopian 26 Jul 2018 18:16

Yaldabaoth got "usurped" by Ion relatively early on in his rebellion, and Ion more-or-less took his/her/its place in the cosmic hierarchy, although his goals differ. The Archons are still around, and serve Ion for their own reasons, but all of them are too powerful and formless to be SCPs in their own right. One of the Archons is known by the title "The Archon of the Cosmic Waters", (Referenced in SCP-2688) and is the inspiration for both the character of Abzu in the Enuma Elish and the character of Iku-Turso in the Kalevala.

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Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Metaphysician 11 Aug 2018 20:24

Always doubt the truth of the scripture ;p Yaldabaoth is not so easily controlled. It's really beyond comprehension. Ion never revealed the whole truth, fearing that it would break the spirit of humanity and breed hopelessness. Most of his followers were not philosophers who cared about the greater good - if they knew how truly powerful Yaldabaoth and the Archons were, most would worship them and do their bidding.

Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

DrBots 02 Aug 2018 15:43

I've gotten the idea the forces of Yaldabaoth are somewhat like System Shock 2's The Many and Dead Space's Necromorphs.

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(account deleted) 03 Aug 2018 19:59

Me preconceived head canon is similar. There is no Yaldabaoth or creator gods however. Instead, the Važjumas are the accidental progenitors of life on Earth (and maybe not all life on earth), and although they don't mean harm some of them are infectious xenomorphic monsters and jellyfish demons. As for Ion, I don't really see what he'd have to gain from your necromorphs or my xenomorphs, so theoretically you and me could devise a new Sarkic goal that doesn't concern Yaldabaoth/Važjuma.

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Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Metaphysician 11 Aug 2018 20:25

I actually do imagine the Archons being a bit like the Brethren Moons.

Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Baronjoe 11 Aug 2018 21:47

I agree. The Brethren Moons give that Sarkic vibe that it is hard not to imagine them as the Archons.

Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

A Blessed Feline 11 Aug 2018 15:24

I have a headcanon that Yaldabaoth in its current state is in fact a quite weak entity, due to being imprisoned by SCP-1000, who used it to fuel their fleshcrafting. It was once an intelligent being, but has been rendered near-mindless from the torture, spending the last of its consciousness to give humans sapience. However, its Archons remain free and powerful, though they have long since stopped trying to save their shackled progenitor. These beings are extremely powerful, and have taken countless names and guises to try to influence humanity into going along with whatever cruel plot they are plotting. The Scarlet King is one of these, as is the Angel from 2610 and the Mother from 3895 among other SCPs. 610 might also be some form of archonite bioweapon. Ion made a deal with the Archons, gaining the power to shepherd the flesh and create the first Akuloth, but in exchange being cursed to eventually become an Archon himself. He thought he could gain control over this disease and worked to kill the Archons, but eventually realized he was wrong and sacrificed himself to prevent himself from becoming the very thing he hated. Few remember this, and many Neo-Sarkics currently worship the Archons, though their awareness of this fact varies. The Ambassador of Alagadda seeks only personal gain and while they've struck various bargains with what remains in Ädytum (Mostly various mad Karcists and Pseudo-Ions), they don't want much to do with the Archons. The Emperess from 3288 is merely another particularly strong 3822 instance similar to ALPHA, but these beings are easily manipulated and could easily fall under the sway of an Archon

Re: The Forces of Yaldabaoth

Metaphysician 11 Aug 2018 21:53

Though I created Sarkicism, I don't want people to abandon their head canons for mine. I always wanted there to be a lot of interpretations. I enjoy using unreliable narrators but not even the Sarkites know the true reality of things (though, they've seen beyond the veil of normalcy).

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The Sarkic traditions descend from the original teachings of Ion. Despite the horrors and atrocities associated with them, Ion was a good and just person. He was a powerful reality bender, as I imagine many ancient "miracle workers" actually were. Understanding the true power behind the Daeva (the gods/Archons and the constant blood sacrifices done in their name), and so Ion led not only a rebellion against the Daevite Empire but the actual authorities of the universe itself. Thus, the Sarkic tradition is originally dystheistic - it is about opposition to the gods and their schemes, rather than service and reverence to them. The Proto-Sarkites maintain that belief (though they have also diverged in many ways), while the Neo-Sarkites use it as a power seeking tool and, having been made aware of the cosmic horrors that govern our reality, actively seek to make bargains with them - the literal antithesis of Ion's goals.

Ultimately, Ion sought the end of tyranny: No kings, no gods - and true freedom from a flawed and diseased reality. The only way to do this was to raise all of humanity into a godlike state and combat the Archons at their own level.

The Archons seemingly sought to seduce Ion, teaching him secrets of the universe and ways to better manipulate reality and change himself and his followers. But Ion played along, to learn what he needed, only to defy them. In truth, the Archons had anticipated this and wanted Ion to seek apotheosis, because the end results would be the same: Through his compassion and desire to save humanity, he would still serve as a catalyst for the twisted reproductive cycle of the Archons.

To create new archons, a vessel must be created - achieved through the sacrifice of a world and its biomass. Ion, hundreds of years after his defeat of the Daeva and as he sought to spread his truth to the whole world, would come to realize the corruption within him. To spare the world, and spite the Archons, he forced the premature birth of the Archon and cast it/himself into a mostly empty dimension where it could not spread.

Thus Ion/Failed Archon are now off, along with most of Adytum, floating in abyss as a stillborn deity.

But what *are* Archons? I like to imply things about them but I'm not usually very direct.

As a courtesy to our readers on mobile devices, please collapse long posts. ~Zyn

Sarkites regard gods and archons as synonymous.

"And Lovataar gazed upon the truth of our reality. Here was the tumorous heart of our stillborn universe. The beginning and the end of all things; mother and father - our dread progenitor! A cosmic void wrapped in flesh and sinew, eternally screaming its inconceivable secrets from a billion venom soaked tongues. Its world devouring maw opened and she beheld the countless souls who bellow in grief and tears."

Actually, I don't really have time to get into this right now, maybe later :p

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