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Here's hoping this does better than my 3kcon entry

DrChandra 01 Jul 2018 05:24

Sorry it took me so long to post here.

I'm glad a lot of people are liking this. I kind of deliberately avoided writing a Herman Fuller 4000 entry just because that would have been utterly predictable, though if I wanted to I probably could have thought of something since the Circus is old enough and Herman no doubt has had his fingers in a lot of pies over the years.

After Dread & Circuses and War On All Fronts (which I avoided here since we used that for our Doomcon entry), S&C Plastics is the Canon I have the most experience with, so I decided to write an SCP about the hole in the ground that started it all. A Nexus were anomalies all revolved around narration seemed like it had a lot of potential for a 4kcon entry.

Thanks to IHP especially, as well as to everyone else who read this over in chat.

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Croquembouche 01 Jul 2018 05:37

I've downvoted the other 4K submissions so far, but I leave this one at a novote.

The whole thing is really well written, and works (I think) as a good intro to the Sloth's Pit canon of which I've read very, very little. That being said, I was definitely expecting more of a climax.

The Chekov's Gun here was the Goatman becoming real and the Foundation dealing with it, but that gun was never fired. It leaves space open for more, but… I feel like the "more" should already be here.

I feel quite conflicted about this piece.

Toa_Vine 01 Jul 2018 05:41

I feel the same way. I want to like this, but it just frustrates me.

See Below

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TL333s 01 Jul 2018 20:04

I wouldn't say the gun never fired. In fact, I think the point is they're deliberately not firing it. And the Foundation actually learning things from the stuff they contain is a rare sight.

Petrograd 03 Aug 2018 07:09

The Chekov's Gun here was the Goatman becoming real and the Foundation dealing with it,

Ah, within the canon he's kind of a regular character and not particularly sinister. I can see why that felt like a fake-out.

TL333s 01 Jul 2018 20:05

I feel dumb because it took me until footnote 4 to realize this is the Sloth's pit of Sloth's Pit. :D Hot damn!

That said, I'm a little unsure about the part stating that SP's general effects are narrative in origin. That was only just established in that -001, and I don't think it's the kind of thing that should be taken as a given.

But if nothing else, this is told really well, and I am for once not disappointed to get 'the answer' behind a big piece of site lore.

Mnemonic_Horse 02 Jul 2018 00:50

I ship the two agents. Is it weird that I ship them? Probably. Regardless, I'm definitely giving a +1 for a good narrative. The Gravity Falls reference and general lack of seriousness from Agent Bob amused me, and he made a good foil for Agent Alice.

keiya 04 Aug 2018 09:35

If someone tries to break them up, their name had damn well better be Eve. Falling all the way through Sloth's Pit is bound to leave enough narrative potential on them to pull off that bit of sillyness.

TAKE MY UPVOTE!

Your Average Lurker 02 Jul 2018 03:25

+

DrArmstrong 02 Jul 2018 15:20

A pit that generates narratives, eh? I guess you could call it a genuine plot hole.

+1

Great addition to the S&C Plastics as well as a more whimsical approach to Pataphysics in the style of American Gods or Discworld.

TL333s 02 Jul 2018 15:23

I guess you could call it a genuine plot hole.

OH NO

Why? D:

Toa_Vine 02 Jul 2018 15:30

Plot hole

You know what, fuck it, that's enough to make me vote for this.

A literal plot hole. Heh.

DrMagnus 02 Jul 2018 15:45

Something about this was just…perfect.

I've got a weakness for agents like Bob + Alice. Mostly because Denton and McDowell act the same way on occasion.

4000-1 was great. I loved how…serious and yet, nonsensical it was. It was tight enough that it didn't drag on, and I enjoyed it.

+1

KentAnderson 02 Jul 2018 15:58

I really enjoyed this. I expected something a bit darker, but I got a slightly concerning but funny piece. +1

Shaggydredlocks 03 Jul 2018 02:57

I fucking dig(ayy) this.

It's pretty incredible to me, how well this segues from and builds off ihp's S&C work - so much so that, even though I knew going into it that it wasn't written by ihp, that fact completely left me halfway through and I ended up hopping into chat to inform ihp of a grammatical error (fixed).

It may not have the feel of historicity something pertaining to the Foundation as a whole would, but as something tied into a specific canon, it does its job splendidly.

Mortos 03 Jul 2018 14:47

Tofflemire: Because… we needed to fall down SCP-4000 to move the plot forward.

I think if this was anything else besides Sloths Pit I would have downvoted right there, heh.

Admittedly, my knowledge of Sloths Pit is limited (only read ihp's prop and have a basic knowledge of the concept), but I really enjoyed this. The characters are great, I really dig the giant spooky man dragging them down the hole, I like the Foundation's reaction to stuff going on here ("don't fucking talk about it, you'll make it worse!"), and I really liked that little rhyme at the end.

But really, let's face it. The +1 here is for digging so deep you reach China.

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