SCP-1142 / Discussion

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Khym Chanur 11 Jun 2012 08:58

A team of two secure communications personnel fluent in German are to monitor SCP-1142 at all times. In case of verified contact,

Since the thing only it has a receiver, it would make more sense for the signal to be recorded automatically, and for someone fluent in German to check daily to see if anything was recorded. And "contact" implies two-way communication, which can't be done with just a receiver.

If, on the other hand, the SCP was a receiver and a transmitter, but all attempts to speak to SCP-1142-1 have failed so far, it would make sense to keep a German speaker around at all hours of the day, since the next time they receive a transmission they'll want to try talking back again, in case the next time talking back works.

Analysis of transmissions recorded by authorized personnel have yielded several critical points of divergence from our timeline.

I don't think "authorized" is needed here.

Crayne 11 Jun 2012 09:00

Point taken. I'll edit it a bit.

Edit: done.

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Dmatix 11 Jun 2012 08:59

This is well written, but doesn't really captivate me. Maybe it's my dislike for WWII era German artifacts. There is nothing wrong with this, it's just not really my thing.

Crayne 11 Jun 2012 09:07

I'm sorry to hear that, but I can sympathize. Sometimes an article just doesn't do anything for you. :)

Forlorn Willow 11 Jun 2012 12:11

If the recordings are translated from German, why do the translations cut out in the middle of words? If I were a translator, I would either translate into whole English words if the meaning could reasonably be guessed from the German fragments, or I would just put [UNINTELLIGIBLE] if I couldn't guess with confidence.

Anyway, I liked this SCP.

Crayne 11 Jun 2012 12:31

Hmmm…you have me there. I'll need to edit the transcripts.

Riesling 11 Jun 2012 14:00

At the very least, using brackets would make it a lot easier to read — as it is it was kind of hard to tell where the real words were. Which may have been the visual equivalent of listening to it, who knows!

Anyway, I liked it too. I wanna know (imagine, I mean) what caused the sinkhole. Although, thinking on that — and this is really picky — subsidence is usually measured in diameter rather than radius. Probably because nobody's climbing into the center of the thing to find where a radius would start. ;)

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Crayne 11 Jun 2012 20:39

You, sir, have a point there (on the diameter/radius thing).

(account deleted) 11 Jun 2012 13:16

It always bugs me that we say Wehrmacht and never Armee de Terre and Luftwaffe and never Regia Italia Aeronautica or anything like that.

Crayne 11 Jun 2012 13:19

Well, I'm all for proper nomenclature, so I probably would refer to them as such. If I wrote about them, that is. I could have simply said "the German guys who defuse bombs" too. ;)

(account deleted) 11 Jun 2012 23:14

And if you did that you'd have my upvote : P

Crayne 12 Jun 2012 10:12

Do you mean refer to the Italian and French army in their mothertongue or refer to the German bomb disposal unit as "the German guys who defuse bombs"?

Lumancer 11 Jun 2012 14:47

You nearly made me feel bad for a literal Nazi, which is impressive. Unfortunately, that is NOT what "dimension" means. When discussing alternate universes / timelines / what-have-you, please do not call them dimensions. Hundreds of chinchillas die every time you do.

EDIT: bloody phone typos…

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Boa Noah 11 Jun 2012 14:53

"There are hundreds of thousands of dimensions separate from our own, each of these alternate dimensions connect to thousands more. Can you comprehend that? There is an infinite amount of dimensions around us, in one dimension you don't exist, in another dimension you're a lion tamer, and in another dimension you could be a chinchilla."

Lumancer 12 Jun 2012 01:17

The word is used that way frequently in some science fiction, but that doesn't make it any less inacurate, particularly in a (mock) scientific document. A dimension for our purposes refers to height, width, depth, and so forth. It does not refer to other universes / timelines / whatever. Though I may be butchering the physics, I believe it's accurate to say that a reality has dimensions; it is not a dimension itself.

My apologies if I'm coming on strong on this point, but this is a serious peeve of mine.

solomen 12 Jun 2012 01:27

there are only 11 dimensions but there are an infinite number of potential timelines in the 4th dimension if you can move sideways through time. People often get that confused.

Boa Noah 12 Jun 2012 01:29

Oh, I know, I was just teasing.

(account deleted) 11 Jun 2012 15:59

You nearly made me feel bad for a literal Nazi, which is impressive.

*Ben Grimm voice on* It's NITPICKING TIME! *Ben Grimm voice off*

There are various interpretations of what's considered a "Nazi" when you refer to German military personnel during WWII. There are some people who use the word "Nazi" interchangeably with "German" for the period, but that's IMHO way too broad a view; many in the Wehrmacht did not share the views of the leadership, and were fighting because they were conscripted or out of a general desire to protect their homeland.

When it comes to military command positions, it gets even thornier. Many of the German High Command were there prior to the Third Reich, and in fact had a great distaste for the politics of the era, but served out of perceived duty. Other were enthusiastic and commanded SS divisions and such. I'm not sure what the particulatrs of our skip's situation are, but I don't know if he's automatically a "Nazi" as such.

zaratustra 11 Jun 2012 16:13

They're members of the German National Socialist Party. They may not be Nazis, but they are Nazis.

VAElynx 11 Jun 2012 16:16

NSDAP - National Socialist German Workers' Party, to cite proper name

atomicthumbs 12 Jun 2012 04:25

"Another timeline" works. "Another reality" works. "Another universe" works. "Another location in two-dimensional time" works. "Another dimension" implies that this other world is aligned on the Q axis instead of or in addition to X, Y, Z, and/or T.

Crayne 12 Jun 2012 05:44

Well, it's certainly all about the Axis.

HLewis 11 Sep 2013 08:18

Once again, I find myself wishing I could upvote comments. Eh, at least I can upvote articles.

+1

eric_h 12 Jun 2012 04:56

I weep for all the dead extradimensional chinchillas.

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Jack Vanatis 25 Apr 2014 07:38

But they are Nazi Chinchillas!

Crayne 12 Jun 2012 10:13

Fixed the improper use of the term dimension. Blame the SF/horror reader in me.

Lumancer 12 Jun 2012 14:47

And now I can upvote in good conscience. I thank you, and the chinchillas thank you.

pauli133 11 Jun 2012 15:58

reminds me of SCP-1639. both are good.

and yeah, this isn't from another dimension, it's from another reality.

(account deleted) 11 Jun 2012 16:02

I am sick to death of the "Hitler and the Occult" genre, so it takes a lot for me to like a concept from that mold. This was very well written though, and I like the transmissions. Upvoted, and good work.

ChazzK 11 Jun 2012 18:01

I liked it overall, the very last transmission is - for once - the thing that actually made me go ahead and scroll up to the +1. I was probably gonna anyway, but that sealed it.

Crayne 11 Jun 2012 18:24

Thanks everyone for your feedback. On the whole 'dimensional' thing, I'm open to suggestions. Anyone have a good technical term to describe this sort of thing. Alternate reality seems a bit too mainstream though I suppose it'd do. Also, I need something for interdimensional. Inter-reality just doesn't cut it…

Rejekyll 11 Jun 2012 21:39

I dig it.

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