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(account deleted)….I haven't decided whether or not to be embarrassed that I had to google this….
Shouldn't this be Euclid? Regardless, this is pretty good. Upvoted.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
Yeah, it was! That is my first page edit, I believe… it also at one point was Safe Euclid, but there's something about that I really don't like, as it almost broadcasts "hey it gets worse from here fyi".
I think I'll stick with Safe for two reasons: 1) as iamunderstand says, there has been zero negative impact or even activity from the SCP when it isn't messed with. And 2) is just headcanon. All the Safes I've written are contained in the same place, that is only permitted to research Safe items.
I kind of imagine the Foundation to operate on "unless you can prove the cause/effect link, you can't upgrade it" policy, in some cases.
Well I thought it was safe untill the guy lost his head. Since they didnt know how it did that, so I thought that would classify it as euclid. But, like you said, headcanon.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
They don't know "how" but they can probably guess "why". The only guy to suffer adverse effects is the one that actually broke a coconut to a point it's useless for the purposes of the tree itself. Short of working with enough D-class to do enough to catch every single one that accomplishes it, that's a pretty good indication of "Let's not crack open any more until we get some more ground rules down."
A well-written, interesting object. Also, love the picture. In my mind that picture was retrieved from the camera seconds before a nut cracked the glass.
Fun fact: In some languages, the word for coconut is a slight malapropism away from being the word for head. Therefore 'coconut' becomes slang for 'head'. (Was this inspired by that?)
Thanks!
Yeah, I think it was originally Spanish—? Coconuts were said to have a creepy grin.
Spanish too? :O I was thinking about Malay and Indonesian. Sounds like this is a common theme. I guess it helps that they're often head-shaped
Yeh, slang in spanish, not by word-similarity, just 'cause of shape and concept.
'le patina el coco' (his coconut's skating/sliding) is a comon idiom in spanish, meaning someone's crazy, or not 'all right in the head'.
There's more but i can't really translate them into english XD
In Malay, coconut is kelapa. Head is kepala. I remember the days when I used to confuse the two; I watched this show where they used coconuts as a detonating devices and I shouted in response that someone's head exploded.
Suffice to say, much jokes were made on my expense.
On 8/8/██, shortly before dawn, D-8084's body was discovered standing rigidly upright in the center his cell. The corpse was cleanly decapitated. The head has not yet been recovered.
Eh… A tree having psychological defenses is out there enough for me. Having it murder people is a little over the top. Upvote nonetheless
Reproduction and murder often go hand in hand, in the natural world. ;)
And I've actually probably seen a lot of stories about sentient trees (and, as I mention occasionally, one of my favorite works of fiction— manga or otherwise— is Mushishi, the entire premise of which is normal animals/objects with paranormal-yet-evolutionarily-sound-behaviors). I wanted to draw on some already existing mythology to add a spin I haven't seen.
Ah, Mushishi. The quiet anime <3
And now that you've made that connection, I won't ever be able to read/watch it again without devising containment procedures for every mushi Ginko comes across.
….I am inclined to like you very much, just for knowing what that is and liking it.
And Mushi-shi were clearly forerunners of the Foundation. "Lo, a hivemind that eats unborn children. Guess I'll carry it around in my coat in a bottle and talk to it!" Ginko did always prefer containment to termination deargodIcouldkeepgoingonlikethis….
For the sake of relevance: I did mentally check my coconut tree against the motherly bamboo of "In the Cage" for any accidental influence. But I don't think I'll ever come close to copying; Urushibara's stories are just that much better.
I encounter so few people who know what Mushishi is. You guys are totally right about the mushis, though, being the original SCP agents. So good.
I was wondering why the fuck people were commenting to this
I'm glad you know what Mushishi is, too. I've always enjoyed apathetic horror to malicious horror.
…well, my mind is blown.
Also, that collector I forgot the name could be a *Mushishi* analog of Marshall, Carter and Dark. Holy carp.
*Mushshi* is an universe in which a proto-Foundation still hasn't managed to hide all the weird shit. Sometimes people take advantage of or try to stop the mushi, and then they have to fix it up. I suppose at some point they figured that had to stop.
I'm with you on this. A tree being able to influence human behaviour to make them assist in spreading its seed is good enough to stand on its own. The head-chopping feels kind of tacked on and there just for a swift kick in the scaries. Kind of the equivalent of a jump-scare in a horror movie built on tension. Cheap and easy but doesn't add a whole lot.
Still, I like the core concept enough to upvote.
I like it, something new and refreshing. It reminds me of the "telepathic flora" from one of SCP-507's logs a lot, maybe a relation is there? It'd add to the creep factor if there was any cross-referencing, though this one stands well on its own, especially with the twist at the end, especially with the creepiness. After all, it was just a couple coconuts, one could imagine the results from other actions against it…
+1
Thanks! The first SCP draft I sandboxed was a mandrake-like weed that was really boring and generally too much like said SCP-507 plants. This one is sort of a cross between that and my initial idea (which was a … banana tree that grew shrunken heads…)
I'm still really careful about cross-referencing, just because aha I'm still really new to a lot of this… but I'd like to write some logs or tales with cross-testing of my Safe items with each other. I just wanna make sure some of 'em actually stick, first.
Creepy. Coconuts. Good job using a picture that's scary but did not immediately make me shit myself (I'm getting tired of those).
Two things: "nothing" was found inside the coconut, or nothing out of the ordinary? Also, shouldn't the recovery log excerpt go after the description instead of right in the middle of it? I'd think at least it should go at the end, it doesn't really need to break the description up like that.
Thanks… I feel the same way about images, myself.
And you have a knack for zeroing in on the imprecisions— I'm still not sure how to phrase that? I like just "nothing", because all my explanations kept coming out like, "well usually there is this stuff called coconut water, but the amount varies depending on stage of ripeness and other factors, and it probably should've been in there but definitely wasn't". But I'll look at that bit again.
I'm not… sure about moving the excerpt, though. I might read some more SCPs to compare, and if mine is really jarring I'll shift it. But I kind of like the idea that sometimes it is more effective to quote the content of the research files themselves, to get that primary-source accuracy, even as part of the description.
Super pedantic powers activate! "Copra" refers to dried coconut flesh, you probably just want to say "meat" or something similar.
The guy with the missing head is a little over the top, but otherwise very nice.
+1
Suuuper Pedantry; eschews cape, wears sensible shoes!
I've read "copra" in both botanical and culinary contexts, so I think it's a flexible description. But it is possibly unnecessarily confusing. I'll revert it to "meat" or something similar.
Thanks!
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