There's something very,very neat about our nomeclature I just realised.
Engineers tend to use j for denoting imaginary numbers.
As such, the joke SCP numbering can be thought of being on a number axis perpendicular to the regular lot.. and also, well, imaginary.
I'd never noticed that one before. Brava, whoever put it in there.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
How do I upload a joke SCP? I wrote an SCP that is essentially a pile of SCP-173's shit.
I'd actually recommend not uploading that one.
if your reading this your gay
I for one would still like this question to be answered - I have one that I'm ready to share, and I have no idea how to do so.
You post it the same way you'd post a regular SCP, just link it from here instead of the main list.
Also what Roget said, but that applies for any SCP. Have you gotten feedback?
No…I…honestly haven't ever been to the forums. In fact, I'm not even sure where they are. *blush* I just pass my time reading each SCP article in numerical order (I've covered all of series one and about half of the -J's); the only time I acknowledge the community is when I read the discussion pages. :\ I know SCP's are generally collaborations to some extent, but I'm never comfortable sharing something I write before it's done. Call me crazy (please, it's the central aspect of my identity), but I much prefer writing in private and then letting people judge my work it after it's finished and posted; and I believe that, after months of work, my idea is as ready as it'll ever be. (Also, it's a joke, and I'd rather not tell people the joke ahead of time.)
And yes, I read the "How To" guides; what I don't get is how to make a new link for the J-SCP page. With regular SCP's, you choose a number that exists but isn't being used for anything else, but how do you make a new number that isn't already listed? That's what I don't get. (I'll do everything at once when I know all the things I need to do and how to do them.)
You edit the page hub, adding something like
[[[SCP-123-J]]] - A Looney Tune
and save it. Then you find the link not referring to anything, and proceed like you would when posting in mainlist (aka click it and then Create Page)
This really isn't the place to have this discussion, but I I'll say that I think you should reconsider this. Peer review is a crucial part of the SCP creation process, so much so that even seasoned writers with a dozen or more SCPs still go through it. You don't have this sort of experience, and are attempting a joke SCP, perhaps the type most likely to crash and burn. If you do this, you need to be ready for your article to fail, because it's rather likely it will.
The forums are here, and you really should create a sandbox page for yourself and get feedback prior to a mainsite post. You'd avoid a lot of negativity by doing this (and you'd also be following the rules).
but I much prefer writing in private and then letting people judge my work it after it's finished and posted;
People who vote on an article once it's on the mainsite aren't obligated to do much more that vote, seeing as the mainsite is a place for finished, critiqued, and edited work.
and I believe that, after months of work, my idea is as ready as it'll ever be.
Could just be my opinion, but I feel there's really no way to know that until you get feedback from some experienced users. Would you rather coldpost without getting feedback first and have your first submission be a gamble, or use the forums and have a much better chance of submitting something that remains on the site?
In fact, I'm not even sure where they are.
There's a link to SCP Forum on the left sidebar, which is on every page on this site.
I know SCP's are generally collaborations to some extent, but I'm never comfortable sharing something I write before it's done.
It isn't so much that SCPs are collaborations (because they generally are not), but it's making sure that everything you write is polished as much as is possible before you submit it. Without tapping other, more experienced authors, you'll never know if you've made critical mistakes that will get your article quickly downvoted. If you're not comfortable sharing with the community at large, tap a couple of authors you like and respect and talk to them in private.
Call me crazy (please, it's the central aspect of my identity), but I much prefer writing in private and then letting people judge my work it after it's finished and posted; and I believe that, after months of work, my idea is as ready as it'll ever be.
The problem with this approach is that the SCP community is both uncompromising and fast-moving. If you post something that is not up to standard, you generally will not get a chance to fix things before it spirals out of control, and as with anything else in life, you only get one chance to make a good first impression. You are, of course, free to do as you wish, but if I were you I'd ask myself whether the risk of that happening is worth it.
(Also, it's a joke, and I'd rather not tell people the joke ahead of time.)
Since you have admittedly not read the forums, I'll repeat the advice I give there: Humanoid, Joke, and Keter-class SCPs are, statistically, the hardest concepts for new members to write about. I highly suggest that you don't try this for your first submission, while you have so many other things to worry about before you've proven that you can nail a SCP article.
And not one of you called me crazy. >:(
Seriously, though, I do get what you're all saying…Perhaps it's only my own personal experiences that make me feel less trusting of the people in forums/chat than the people who read the published articles and post in the discussion pages (which are mostly the same people, I know, but still). I'll…reconsider.
And thank you VAElynx for answering my question. :)
Eh. Annoying someone by *not* calling them crazy is unique enough that I had to try it you crazy crazy person x3.
Anyhow, Rumetzen is right. Chat and forums tend to give much less vitriolic criticisms because, well, at least one factor that causes people like me to burn with hate that is, the underlying sentiment "Why the fuck did whoever posted this think this crock of shit is of the same quality as the rest of the wiki when it's a slendeman ripoff with a thousand of typos and titanium walls SNARL" is absent. Like it is said by Mack - if you post on forums, it'll get criticized and helped with. If you post on mainlist it'll get judged.
Yeah, the main difference is that those same people will just be angrier at the cold post ;)
At a certain stage it can be better to post, but if it's your first article and a -J, cold-posting is an almost guaranteed trainwreck.
Hell, I have more -Js under my belt than any other man would dare admit, and I still make sure to have all my draft -Js reviewed by folks in various chatrooms (and about 2/3 don't make it through).
morbosfist reverted the change you made to this page (a link to "SCP-004-J" which was actually a link to a Rickroll video).
I'm not sure if he was entitled to do it or not, you'd have to ask staff.
I personally don't think a -J that's just a rickroll is a good idea, though.
It was reverted by morbofist, who did not have the right to do so. Staff are currently discussing the validity of allowing the entry to stay on the list.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
Something this dorky should not be allowed to exist in any case. It's an off-site link, and it cannot be downvoted, which puts it beyond reproach. I would be absolutely shocked if staff allowed it to stay.
what if I make an article that says due to scp-004-js effects scp-004-j must be described via video?
Said article might not last very long, if all you've got is the video. It'd definitely need more effort.
If you have a coherent, clinical article describing people constantly falling for a malignant self-disguising internet anomaly that causes victims to go into fits of rage, maybe. However, keep in mind that pop culture is a pretty unoriginal source for a joke SCP, and you'd need an excellent execution of the idea to pull it off.
Funny as a rick roll is, the rest are articles.
Ah, my bad. Sorry.
see? it doesn't have to be an article
it just has to be funny
I think an SCP that links to a rick roll is funny and I think other people think so too
if no one minds ill reupload it tomorrow
see? it doesn't have to be an article
Actually, it is possible to comment on 1047-J, since the wikidot redirect page is still a page.
if no one minds ill reupload it tomorrow
As a wiki moderator, I advise you not to do that. A significant number of people, including staff, had issues with the fact that making a link "article" leads to an SCP-J that cannot be commented on.
Sorry dude, but no.
You created a piece that can't be rated. That means staff get to decide if it stays or goes.
Unfortunately, staff didn't like your rickroll link. Therefore, it was removed.
Do not re-add it, unless you do so as a full page that can be easily commented and voted on.
Feel free to PM us if you have any questions.
How about you, (oh, I don't know) create an article with a link to the video inside, like you said earlier?, with a voting module in the article allowing a proper downvote to oblivion? I'm willing to do it, (but you, zacnotzach will have to answer to its criticism, because it's not my article, and I'm going to downvote it anyways)
EDIT:I do not mean to be harsh, but you already suggested it, so why not do it?
MackDaddy, you're being excessively harsh there. Please tone it down.
Also, this bit
I'm willing to do it, (but you, zacnotzach will have to answer to its criticism, because it's not my article, and I'm going to downvote it anyways)
is wholly unnecessary. If you're going to submit content to the site, there's no reason to not take responsibility for it. Also, if you're going to downvote it anyway, why bother posting it?
yeeeaaaah, I went overboard in that comment, didn't I? I'm sorry for that.
no hard feelings, zacnotzach
EDIT: I was trying to say that if zacnotzach didn't know how to do it I would create the article for him, but as I'm not the guy who came up with the idea, I wasn't going to defend it, I probably could have said it better, but (as obviously seen) I wasn't thinking about the tone of my comment.
I was trying to say that if zacnotzach didn't know how to do it I would create the article for him, but as I'm not the guy who came up with the idea, I wasn't going to defend it
Again, if you're going to create something on the site, do take responsibility for it. If someone doesn't know how to create a page on the mainsite, the best way to help them would to be explain how, or let a staff member take care of it. :)
its zac and its ok I might create a page but who says its going to be down voted?
its a rickroll its funny! either that or I write an SCP about a guy who has no idea what minecraft is
Boyo. You've not only been advised by a moderator that this is a bad idea, but also an administrator. Those both a probably good signs that you should not go through with this idea.
As for your new concept, I personally can't see what's funny about that.
its zac and its ok I might create a page but who says its going to be down voted?
The people in this discussion thread who are telling you they'd downvote it if you posted it, I would imagine.
its a rickroll its funny!
Humor is subjective. The aforementioned site members do not find it funny.
either that or I write an SCP about a guy who has no idea what minecraft is
*facepalm*
Joke articles are not a dump box for crap that doesn't live up to normal article standards. Jokes are, in fact, harder to write well than standard SCP articles because of the humor factor; not everyone finds the same things funny, and in this case, we aren't twelve.
Would the comment I am currently posting be considered thread necromancy?
Oh, you remade the -J page. Nice job, whoever that was.
Joke SCPs are generally considered harder to write than main-series SCPs and are one of the top three most difficult things for new authors to write about (along with Humanoids and Keter-class objects).
So, I guess the statement "Joke SCPs take under 10 minutes to write" no longer exists anymore, or am I getting the wrong idea?
I don't recall it ever existing. In either case, Joke SCPs take as much effort and finesse to write as mainlisters. Usually.
if your reading this your gay
Sal said that. It was meant to reference how many -J SCPs need to be short and clever, and writing them for too long tends to make people overthink things. So, although it is not a fast rule, it is just a word of wisdom from the king of joke articles.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
Pretty much seconding this. I've forgotten what SCP-J he posted in, but I remember that he said almost exactly:
DOG FACT: Joke SCPs take 10 minutes or under to write.
—(No, it's not under SCP-1994-J, I've checked the whole thread.)—
But since I didn't know he said it as a sarcastic expression, well, now at least I know.
EDIT: My mistake, It IS in fact in page 2 of SCP-1994-J forums, except ObserverSeptember said this.
Can we make Joke SCPs of Joke SCPs?
Yes, this is an actual question.