Looks good to me. I wonder if it should address the -ARCing of SCPs, since we've had a few of those in the past couple of weeks.
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(account deleted)Should this be updated to reflect the -15 early deletion exception?
Piffy is an SCP Foundation Moderator, Lv. 9001 Squishy Wizard, and Knight of the Red Pen.
I recommend you go back and fix that paragraph, given that it is now highly contradictory.
Under 'Self Deletion', it might be prudent to explicitly state that deletion does not involve simply removing all the text from the page, seeing as how that's happened more than a few times. Not that the people who do that have read the guides anyways for the most part, but at least we can give them a link to a page explicitly telling them not to.
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"Note that pages with ratings below -15 may be deleted with no grace period."
Seems to directly contradict
"This means that a page will not be deleted by staff for at least 24 hours, regardless how low its rating falls."
Could this be clarified in some way? It's quite confusing as-is.
That first statement should be generally disregarded— every page, no matter how low it gets, will get its twenty-four hours before deletion so the author can read and respond to feedback. I won't say totally disregarded, since there are occasional exceptions. (Also, coincidentally enough, the deletion policy is currently being reviewed among staff. More details to come.)
Do all articles that have a rate of -10 or lower get deleted after the 24 hour grace period even if the rating doesn't get past -10?
You're basically asking if all green apples are eaten even if they're not green. No, if an article does not drop down below -10, it doesn't get deleted after 24 hours. Once it does however, a deletion vote is started as normal.
Just a couple of grammatical errors that kind of tripped me up when I was reading it:
Pages are typically afforded a grace period of 24 hours after the posting of a deletion vote, during which time they are not eligible either for removal from the site, regardless of rating.
Omit the word "either"
Staff have a more detailed and thorough version of the deletions guide when specifies exactly how these process take place and the policies they follow.
Change "when" to "which"
Change "process" to "processes"
I am fairly new here as a member, and I have only recently started looking at articles in deletion and that whole process, but is coldposting always such a huge problem? Every day there are at least two coldposted articles, usually more than one by the same person, that are in deletion status within minutes of being posting. Is there any discussion about making coldposting an offense that can lead to summary deletion? I'm more curious than anything, because I love reading the ridiculous stuff that gets coldposted.
The last few days have seen an increase in coldposts, but yes, they are a regular thing. Coldposting is not an offense, nor do I think should it be. However, a pattern of multiple poor coldposts by a newbie is indicative of someone who hasn't read the Guide For Newbies, which is required reading. Enough of that behavior can cause a newbie to have their membership revoked, but it is not considered a disciplinary action and they are welcome to reapply after showing that they've read and understand the required material.
A coldpost is not, and is not being considered as, grounds for summary deletion. The regular deletion process handles these cases sufficiently, and will not cause the deletion of a coldpost that is good (it happens, and isn't exactly as rare as one might think). Besides, summary deletion should be saved for cases where the existence of the article causes a problem: vandalism, failed deletion by the author, plagiarism, and the like. The typical coldpost isn't a problem article; most of them are just poor execution.
Thanks! I appreciate the clarity, and I better see why things are as they are.
Posting here because I'm not a member of O5; there are two grammatical errors in the linked staff-facing guide on O5, specifically in the foreword at the top. These are the usage of the word "exhausting" instead of"exhaustive" and "there" instead of "where".
Typos have been addressed, thank you! In the future, feel free to poke a staff member about such errors; we can respond more promptly that way.
I just realized that the wiki staff are colder than the foundation.
That seems… unnecessarily snide? The deletion process is usually pretty painless, at least in my experience, and staff themselves have nothing to do with deletion beyond the staff-voting and deletion stages.
If you have an issue with staff behavior, consider contacting staff to report it. If you have a general complaint, check this thread. If you have a cohesive policy proposal, try this forum.
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