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Special thanks to Ehksidian, LadyKatie, Shio, (assuming those last three have the same names outside of chat) and Mr.Wrong for helping out and providing feedback for this one!
Levi.jpg is borrowed from:
Original Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs4Ww-fHQK0
Creator: JuniperP1
I have checked the video you have linked, and noted that it has the Standard Youtube License. That is not the Creative Commons license (and Youtube strictly distinguishes that from the Standard Youtube License).
As such, within the timer, please either produce permission from the creator or find a CC compliant image.
EDIT: Author replaced image to one that is CC-complaint. Issue resolved.
Oh deary. I've just sent the uploader a comment over YouTube. They were active recently, so hopefully they'll respond.
Noted.
By the way, I will say that you can indeed find Creative Commons material on Youtube. Just use the Filters after doing your initial search; Creative Commons is an available option.
The author of that video still hasn't responded, so I'm going to go ahead and replace the image with another one I found that is CC compliant.
Octopus.jpg
Original Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1928992
Creator: ElinorD
This is good on so many levels. The idea is grand, the pacing is solid, the interview is clever…+ all the 1s.
+1
Nice job. Charming - utterly charming.
Soo crows and octopi are fighting over who gets to be the next dominant species after humans basically create their own extinction?
This is great and I'm giving it +1
I'm just confused. Are the crow and Levi fighting for which race will be the next most intelligent species on earth?
A lot of theories suggest that, if humans never existed, or were to disappear suddenly, either crows or some species of octopus or squid will eventually evolve to become the dominant species on Earth, due to their current levels of assumed intelligence.
So, yeah, essentially they are fighting to be the next "humans", ie the intelligence species dominating the planet.
At least, that's what I took away from it.
And yeah, this is great, +1!
"Get your stinky tentacles off me, you damned dirty Calamari!"
"You Maniacs! You pooped all over it! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
SCP-2967-1 have also been more reluctant to allow SCP-2967 to be taken to the observation tank for testing, and have displayed wariness of research staff. As of writing, SCP-2967 has been reclassified to Euclid.
By the locked box test, an ordinary Octopus would already be Euclid. They escape quite well with whatever level of intelligence they have now.
I was going by this definition on the Object Class pages, specifically the part of sufficiently understood and reliably contained.
Safe-class objects are those anomalies that are either sufficiently understood that they are now completely and reliably contained on a permanent basis or otherwise do not trigger their anomalous effects unless intentionally activated.
Being put in a tank full of seawater and kept there is pretty reliable. Besides, where is the octopus going to go elsewhere to get the seawater it needs to survive?
Besides, where is the octopus going to go elsewhere to get the seawater it needs to survive?
The ocean.
IMO, anything that requires routine maintenance should be Euclid. Otherwise there's not really much point for object classes at all in terms of policy and procedures.
Duly noted. I'll go ahead and change it.
I've pondered the curious fact of cephalopod intelligence before, and read about corvid intelligence.
This brought it together nicely. Although they occupy entirely different ecological niches now, who knows what would happen after the extinction level event that removes the human hegemony? I'm imagining octopus surmarines trundling up the beaches, dodging crow-launched missiles.
Eating tako sushi will be awkward now.
Cephalopods have a couple of major hurdles to technological civilization. Firstly discovering fire is an obstacle to any aquatic organism (this is an issue for Cetaceans too). Secondly they don't raise their offspring, and have a planktonic larval phase in their life cycle which makes transmission of culture significantly more difficult since it can only occur between adults.
I like the crow versus octopus war.
First the technical error:
SCP-2967 is an abnormally large specimen of cephalopod of an unidentified species, sharing most traits with octopus vulgaris. SCP-2967 is roughly 33cm in mantle length, with its arms stretching up to roughly 1.5m long.
That isn't abnormally large for a cephalopod species. There are at least two species of octopus with mantle lengths above 60 cm (Haliphron atlanticus and Enteroctopus dofleini) dozens of squid species that are larger still (up to 3 m), there are even several species of cuttlefish that are larger than your "abnormally large" octopus.
Also generic names are always capitalized so it should be "Octopus vulgaris". Common names are lower case (except when they contain a proper noun) so "common octopus". I have fixed these for you.
Kain Pathos Crow
Some old school author avatars (the Brights and Mann for example) hold up okay nowadays, but this isn't one of them, IMO. And that whole bit at the end, seems like a throwback.
Thanks! I changed the wording from cephalopod to common octopus.
E: And thanks sirpudding for fixing the capitalization on the names.
I liked the Kain Pathos Crow reference. How many people could be called "Dr. Crow" in the Foundation anyways?
How many people could be called "Dr. Crow" in the Foundation anyways?
Roughly 0.008%, based on the US population, so if there are 100 million people in the Foundation, there should be about eight thousand Crows or Crowes.
My main issue is that I really don't like the bitter sarcastic talking dog.
No vote. Execution is mostly competent, but various minor flaws and (admittedly totally arbitrary) personal preference qualms.
Big qualm is, the closing notes. Idgaf about use of old school avatars, the names are fluff to me unless it's part of a greater narrative. The idea of correspondence regarding a probable prank making its way onto the main document is tough to swallow, though.
Likewise, the idea of animals just up and stealing our civilization is a super common trope. We've got at least one or two more on the site.
Third thing is, this feels less like a plausible… thing and more like the author read a Cracked article or watched an Animal Planet special on animal intelligence and didn't put further consideration or research into the piece.
Tl;dr: not my cup of tea, sorry :/
On consideration, I think I will no vote. I would upvote something about octopode and corvid soldiers from the future after humanity fighting a time war in the present, but that is a story that I am reading into this without much support in the text.
Now that you mention a thing like that, isn't there a tale series or canon about animals fighting after a post-apocalyptic event? It's name escapes me, but I feel like this article could fit well into it perhaps. For a minor tale at least, perhaps.
It puts me most in mind of the Harlan Ellison short story "Soldier from Tomorrow" (and Outer Limits episode "Soldier"). Or of Terminator. But a version of this in which humans are irrelevant.
Or perhaps the Buck Rogers parody episode of South Park with the otters.
No-vote. Initially, my only concern was the inclusion of the needless reference to Kain Pathos Crow at the end. But then, coming to the comments, specifically the one left by Mortos above, I find this a distressingly straightforward adaptation of a concept that I will admit I had never heard of until just right the heck now.
I mean, it's cute, but there's no real nuance. That said, I might be willing to upvote just if you took out the end note. It really doesn't add anything.
