We've already got one.
The number slips my mind at the moment, but it's an atlantean cup. Exact same effect, but the cup does it better.
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Which shares more than a few similarities to SCP-028, honestly. Memory affecting SCPs do seem to be a popular theme, hmmm?
Having read the cup's description, I would argue that the effect is not the same as the memory stone. The cup tries to overwrite with new information, while the memory stone lets you relive the stored information only.
Still, there are similarities, I suppose. Still standing by my vote.
Is it bad my first thought was that this (especially the full emotional impact portion) could make containing SCP-231 more efficient?
CAT scanning is all fine, but I don't think it can detect sites of damage as small as in this case. CAT is essentially a series of x-ray images with some 10 images for the whole brain. And the x-ray doesn't show everything as well.
I propose changing it to MRI, as it's more appropriate and gives a fuller picture.
Seconded. MRI excels in imaging soft tissues - ie, the brain, intestines, etc - CAT scans are more effective at imaging bones.
Furthermore, to CAT scan the brain would be doubly silly, since a CAT scan expels alot of radiation to produce images, and can easily cause radiation burns. It would also put the patient at risk from developing brain cancer.
I am officially calling for a review of this article. Please read this and, if you are so inclined, vote on it and post your thoughts here.
This is really, really boring. I couldn't finish it.
if your reading this your gay
An above-average execution of a highly mediocre idea.
No vote from me for now.
EDIT: You know what, meh. Downvoted.
(account deleted)Not the best-written article I've ever seen…I'm wondering, though: Can a person who stored their memory in a stone get the memory back if they put the stone down and then pick it up again? I feel like it's kind of left up in the air: The brain cells that hold the memory die when the stone absorbs it, but then again, if you see the memory after storing it, it would become a completely new memory, right? I mean, it would be stored by different brain cells. If it did work like that, though, then that would take away any sort of creep factor or anything; besides, if the stones stay "full" once they've absorbed a memory, a person could put a memory in it, touch it to get the memory back, and then still be able to share or store it using the stone without any real memory loss at all.
In any case, I feel like that should be clarified.
It wouldn't restore the memory fully; it would be more like something about which you had a very vivid dream. While you're reliving a memory, it seems completely real, but once the "replay" ends, it loses the immediacy, and becomes more like something you heard secondhand.
I will point out that the creep-factor was actually supposed to be bolstered by a series of research logs documenting the stored memories in the library, which I have been too lazy and unskilled to write properly.
One tangent is that the stones were definitely used for torture; the 'donor' would be intentionally harmed (forced to hold hot coals in their hands, acid trickled over their face) and then the resulting memory could be used to force someone to relive that experience, over and over again, for as long as they remained in contact with the stone. Another practice of the original users of the memory stone was to fill a large stone with something horrible (torture, the death of a loved one) and then using the large stone to create, say, arrowheads. Someone wounded by such an arrow would relive the bad thing, continuously, until the arrow was removed.
The other tangent is that the very oldest stones in the library contain memories from donors who were intelligent and self-aware, but not human and not at all friendly to humanity. People who spend too much time with THOSE memories eventually begin to be "overwritten" by them. Once their mind is sufficiently warped, then the physiological changes start happening…
This is a call for review on this article, which has been selected as needing more attention.1
I'm not sure why people don't dig geology SCPs as much as they should. The idea is a great foundation, but sometimes ideas get buried in the minutiae, right under the crust. Then again, these things shift over time. And that rocks!
The idea behind this SCP, portable memory storage, isn't one I dislike. Done before on the wiki, yes, but this is a Series I article, and as thedeadlymoose says,
An above-average execution of a highly mediocre idea.
Unfortunately, there are some odd tonal issues, esoteric containment procedures, and vague descriptive statements. The containment procedures detail a library constructed of SCP-888, which is only found in Russia? The entire containment procedures are muddled, referencing granite vaults and a "Father ████ ████████". A couple of atonal notes, droning, and abundant reactions push this close to the edge.
This:
SCP-888 is currently used as the basis for a library located in ████, Italy. The portions of the building constructed of SCP-888 are designated as "rare-book" storage, and are locked away from the general public.
And this:
The current storage site contained roughly 1 cubic meter of 'empty' stone, which was previously housed in a sealed vault of ordinary granite.
Directly contradict each other, and are simply confusing to the reader. The doctor's comment, and the analogy to describe the process,
like losing a tooth — you know there used to be something there but all that's left is a squishy hole.
Ends up sounding sillier than intended.
That's not to say it's all bad though. I think it could be much more interesting. Why is there an old library made of this stone? In Italy, no less. There's definitely a story in the history of that building. Is it tied to the Father? Is there a religion using these stones? As Wandergirl108 questions,
Can a person who stored their memory in a stone get the memory back if they put the stone down and then pick it up again?
According to the author, Mount,
It wouldn't restore the memory fully; it would be more like something about which you had a very vivid dream.
Elaboration on this, too, would help the article. Would repeated transfer of the memory cause degradation? Would the memories change gradually? Where would that go? Elucidation on the uses of these stones could make the article so much more unforgettable.2
In and of itself, the idea is more of a platform for interest, rather than inherently interesting. With a little love and creativity, this rocky start could polish up to be something good.
I'm not sure why people don't dig geology SCPs as much as they should. The idea is a great foundation, but sometimes ideas get buried in the minutiae, right under the crust. Then again, these things shift over time. And that rocks!
Is this the new pps (puns per sentence) record? Rated at 1.5 pps right now, with a pps spike of 3…
As for the article… I generally like this one. Yeah, it does need tightening up, though. Surprised it lasted what… four years without anyone noticing the contradictory locations.
Some of what Mount put up in the discussion should be somehow incorporated into the article too. Especially about how the stones were originally used; it gives a greater emphasis on the "wow" factor than we have now.
Oh, and that Researcher's note probably needs to be moved somewhere else, the one in the ( )'s. The current location is jarring to me at the moment.
I like this. It's surprisingly compelling for memory-stealing rock, but that tooth analogy needs to go.
At this time, no special containment procedures are necessary, as this camouflage has sufficed to keep the SCP hidden for nearly fifteen hundred years.
This just seems lazy. At the very least, some sort of contingency plan about what happens if someone stumbles in here should exist.
Most of the my other problems with this have already been mentioned. I enjoyed this one, and if it's rewritten I hope it's made even better.
Made me go ''neat, but not interesting enough to deserve an upvote''. I think the article would really benefit from those research logs the author was talking about like 5 comments back. Getting to know what the stones were used for would be great and there's real psychological torture potential here.
upthread, moose has stated more succinctly stated my thoughts on the matter. i actually rather enjoy the "dry story-telling" approach this article takes instead of the more modern "super-dry literal report" approach, and i think it's pulled off rather well. the idea is highly mediocre and does absolutely nothing for me, but i got through this article on the writing. neutral vote.
Why would the Foundation transport an anomaly from Russia to Italy to build a library out of it?
The article states that the SCP is *similar* to a mineral only found in Russia, which I understand is rare but not anomalous. Similar, not the same. It points to a possible origin of the SCP.
About the library/granite vault as storage. I think that could be interpreted as two existing caches of this SCP. One of them found originally in 'full' state (the library) and the other in 'empty' state (the one in the vault). They could be SCP-888-1 and SCP-888-2, for example.
I like the 'lost tooth' description. It left me with the idea that it would feel as if you knew that there used to be something there and you are constantly mentally picking around it, but there is nothing any more. Maybe we could get rid of the word 'squishy', though.
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