SCP-392 / Discussion

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Thanks, Attribution and Other Matters

MrWrong 10 Jun 2016 04:39

Take two!

Anyway, thank you to the reviewers of the previous and the current version for going through this.

This SCP involves SCP-140 by AssertiveRoland and SCP-2733 by ahbonjour.

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As for why Daevites are mentioned right off the bat… the Foundation has knowledge over their culture in SCP-140. It would be criminal for them to not use it to expand their understanding. And the Foundation likely know more about Daevites than say… Sumerian, Olmec or Xia Dynasty…

And from an out-of-universe POV, it is tiring to see another SCP where the GoI reference is tacked at the rear end of the article.

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The deviant purpose of 392 (as perceived by Daevites) was that it was kept as a reminder to a specific human lover way past his death.

And yes, the Chinese do have a practice of collecting enemy heads. A tree that provides human heads without the trouble of finding people to kill will be a boon.

And no, the Japanese have no such ritual in RL. The imperial court just took Ono's word for it and extrapolated it, who likely said it to justify the gifts from China (which is still technically correct). The monarchy (as an institution) would be obligated to perform many rituals as a head of state.

And… Argus-100 is a cross-test. I mean, this is a thing with eyes that can't blink…

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Cary Apple 10 Jun 2016 05:37

I certainly appreciate the Daevites being mentioned up front instead of reading and being like "Oh, it was Slenderman MC&D" So thank you for that.

As for the article itself, it was delightfully bizarre , engaging and creative. Im still cringing at the test log. It moved at a brisk pace and never wore out its welcome. A fine entry in the Daevite mythology.

(account deleted) 11 Jun 2016 15:01

"Oh it was Slenderman MC&D"

I don't know if you were going for this reference but I'm going to make it anyway.

"IT WAS THE MOTHERFUCKING SLENDERMAN."

Cary Apple 12 Jun 2016 00:20

Yes, that is correct ;)

Capt Miller 10 Jun 2016 09:09

Extremely well written, and the changes are only better.

+1

Univine 10 Jun 2016 11:26

This new version does a much better job as a Daevite world-building piece than the previous article did, and I don't particularly miss the bit about Adon and the slave. +1

MrWrong 10 Jun 2016 11:29

Court romances were never my type of genre…

Norman Dy Invidia 10 Jun 2016 15:12

This is amazing. Almost makes me wonder what the previous version was like.

MrWrong 10 Jun 2016 15:46

Almost makes me wonder what the previous version was like.

Something about a love affair between a Daevite matriarch, her concubinus (which is the head) and a human… which ended up the downfall of the Daevite city-state by Sarkic biological warfare…

Shaggydredlocks 10 Jun 2016 15:29

Much better and more concise than the previous version. +1

Decibelles 10 Jun 2016 16:25

Better for sure, but I don't think it's still enough to get me into it for an upvote. That being said, I balked at the addendum. An 001 reference for two objects that aren't Keter (that's what the -K stands for there after all)? Seems flimsy at best.

MrWrong 10 Jun 2016 16:47

An 001 reference for two objects that aren't Keter (that's what the -K stands for there after all)? Seems flimsy at best.

Indeed… someone else highlighted that too… I would see it as an extrapolation of Keter Duty (why restrict the use of anomalies to neuter other anomalies only to Keter class, which is frankly defined on vague set of parameters?). But yeah, I will maintain the addendum but with amended naming.

Update Notice

MrWrong 11 Jun 2016 07:07

Noting update of the article. To be specific, I changed the last addendum to something focused on this SCP. The potential for cross-test still stands, but made more subtle.

Scorpion451 11 Jun 2016 14:20

Glad to see this back up.
I suppose I'm in the minority in actually liking the "tragic courtly romance: sarkist-daevite style" story from the previous iteration, but this version works too, and that's what headcanon is for. X3

MrWrong 11 Jun 2016 14:24

I eventually see it as an issue of the wrong medium. Part of the backstory would be supposedly be provided by 140, but Petrograd kindly remarked that that detail feels out of place in the cultural-historic text that is SCP-140. I would admit I might have been influenced by the courtly chaos of Heian Japan, especially the Tale of Genji in the original version.

If anything, perhaps a Tale would be a suitable context for the original idea.

RJB_R 11 Jun 2016 21:17

A circulatory system is present, although no blood flow is present.

This is a little repetative. Other than that, this was competently put together and this version does a much better job of tying things together, but it still ultimately felt more like a small Daevite loredump than an SCP article. There's more connecting the heads to the lore but the article still doesn't do much with it. The idea that it's a specific persons head is a good way of doing it but there's no real satisfactory payoff for that concept. Overall, an improvement, but I'm keeping my downvote.

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