SCP-6380 / Discussion

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Rounderhouse 06 Jul 2021 19:57

A collab with PlaguePJP. thanks to harry, truther, ralliston, storm, and ofc plague for critique.

This is an article set during the Troubles. It features a marginalized group emigrating to escape the preceding decade or two of brutal violence in Europe, to be trafficked into America, and then find the city they live in does not accept or want them, and leaves falling into the brutal criminal underworld as one of their only options. The real-life parallel here should be self-evident, I think, especially given that the North Side Gang, a real world Irish-American gang in the 20s and 30s, is prominently featured.

The title, I'm aware, has generated a level of controversy. "The Irish Problem" specifically refers to a term used in the UK in the 20th century to refer to the crisis and tenous political situation in Ireland, and as this serves as the historical context for the events of the article, I will not be changing it. This is an article about Irish discrimination in America, and while I'm sorry if the title makes people uncomfortable, it's kind of the entire point.

I myself am not Irish - though I did ask a few Irish friends of mine for their thoughts on it before posting - and I apologize if anything thinks I handled the subject matter insensitively.

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PlaguePJP 22 Jul 2021 06:27

Realized I never made a coauthorpost for this. Rounder told me about this idea, asked me to collaborate, and then wrote the whole thing by himself. He was merciful enough to bestow a credit for selecting images for him.

Stay tuned for Plague/Rounderhouse's third foray into coauthorship (don't ask about the first time) with Gorilla Marketing 2: Monkey Business.

Ralliston 06 Jul 2021 19:59

big dick chappell character tag when

rattles 06 Jul 2021 21:24

Is it just me, or should this not have the term "SCP-6380" at the top?

Also, I'm pretty sure the adjective form of "nomenclature" is "nomenclative."

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Ralliston 07 Jul 2021 08:23

Is it just me, or should this not have the term "SCP-6380" at the top?

seconding this

Zertas 06 Jul 2021 22:04

You already completely proved that you could write this type of dialogue with 638, and this only reafirms it. wholehearted +1

GremlinGroup 06 Jul 2021 23:21

Oh this was absolutely great. Fantastic dialogue and it really worked to bring me into the world. Chappel is fucked up, through and through. Great job!!

A Random Day 06 Jul 2021 23:29

The dialogue is crackling and I like the little detail with Shelby's name redacting itself at the end, but the twist ending doesn't feel earned. There's no point in the story where Shelby's personal beef with Chappell actually surfaces or is even hinted at before Chappell straight up tells the reader the twist. It's a fun twist, but feels like a twist for a twist's sake rather than one built up by the story to give the ending proper narrative heft and a missed opportunity to compare and contrast Shelby's motivations with Chappell's shark-like selfishness.

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ch00bakka 11 Nov 2021 22:18

I agree with ARD here, but the rest of the article was fun enough to get an upvote. Great build-up but the ending falls a little flat.

Roundabouts 07 Jul 2021 00:02

Stupid fucking animal. +1

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— Roundabout.

NoName2087 07 Jul 2021 08:28

Shouldn't this be tagged "chicago spirit" ?

Zyn 08 Jul 2021 06:42

Noting that as of my reading the above comment, the noted tag has been added.

As an aside for site members, for a prompt response (and to better ensure that someone sees the comment, since wikidot doesn't have automatic notifications for new posts) this is something that I think staff can be contacted directly about. You can also message the original author.

OCuin 09 Jul 2021 13:19

Whilst I do like seeing an article with Irish characters about the history of Irish immigrants in America, I think the twist at the end is too abrupt and sudden to really work. Like ARD said, it's a fun twist, but it's an unearned one. It feels like there's still a lot to get into here with these characters, Shelby in particular, but it's foregone in favour of the twist, which gives the ending an unsatisfying feeling to me. -1

Maggywaggy 09 Jul 2021 22:15

I've always been a little bit confused about the relationship between the Fae and the people of Hy-Brasil and if they count as Fae or not in the SCP universe.

That has nothing to do with my reading of this article though. I enjoyed it greatly and while I did feel the ending came on rather quickly, the whole of the article is crafted well enough for me to still want to +1.

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