Aside from those minor details, I can appreciate this as an appropriate article about a humanoid SCiP.
+1
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Aside from those minor details, I can appreciate this as an appropriate article about a humanoid SCiP.
+1
I really wanted to use proper measurements for the radiation, but I couldn't find a good way to do it. I did some research, and then I just decided to use layman's terms. Wish I could have talked to you earlier!
Due to the extensive tissue damage covering the entirety of SCP-2192's surface area, its gender is not physically apparent
I'm going to suggest you look up the definition of gender. As I told you in the forums, this sentence just doesn't work.
I suppose I'll give you props for at least incorporating some of the feedback, I can't spot any compulsion anymore.
Damn, I am such a dingus. I just now realized what you were talking about. I know the definition of gender, that was just a legit dumbass moment on my part. (Facepalming really hard right now.)
You've been warned before for shitposting, so here's a more formal warning. We do not appreciate your shitposts. Stop it. Further posts of this nature are going to lead you to a 24 hour ban. Whether or not you agree with site culture, this is probably one of the least-eloquent ways of addressing it that you could have come up with. The word was literally used incorrectly, and TwistedGears was correcting the author. Nothing tumblr about it.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
damn dude you misused a word you don't gotta call yourself a dumbass over it
you wrote a good article so you're clearly not one
Downvoted this at first, but then switched to an upvote after I thought about it for a few minutes. The feels of the "kid being distressed because she melted her crayons" thing was what got to me. The exact train of thought was "poor thing needs a hug…oh. wait. That's kind of sad…actually that's really sad…".
Potential for GK-class scenario be damned. Someone introduce this thing to SCP-1145.
Also, you might want to just ditch the whole indeterminate gender thing entirely- the inevitable PC ranting that always ensues around that word aside, there are numerous ways of determining biological sex beyond surface features- traces of internal anatomical structures (which you can find even in heavily damaged naturally occurring mummies) and skeletal topology1.
Footnotes
1. Which, contrary to common knowledge, is not identical between the sexes until puberty, only less accented. The hips especially do not lie- or at least the pelvic girdle doesn't anyway.
Ah yes that well known Shakira song, "The Pelvic Girdle Don't Lie"
Anyway +1 as it was for the most part well written. I might sway back to a neutral vote if I realize this is just Someone What Burns You, as the site has a few People What Can't Stop Burning already, but for now I haven't.
I was wondering myself if they would be able to x-ray her to check. I wasn't sure if the high level of radiation would interfere with an x-ray or not. Then again, I was also wondering if they would care enough to go to the trouble of checking.
Edit: I did fix the "gender vs. sex" thing. I don't want to upset anyone. Obviously, I meant biological sex, not gender, and using the incorrect term was legitimately just a bit of a "dumbass attack" on my part. I think I originally used "gender" because it sounded more clinical, but clearly I wasn't thinking about the fact that there is a difference.
I think that a strong gamma source would overexpose the film.
That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure about it. I may need to look into this.
I was actually thinking she could be her own x-ray source; just take a picture of her with radiographic film. (think thermal imaging, but with better resolution). If she's overexposing the film, they can always put a filter over the camera like you would for taking photos of a bright light source.
There's also ultrasound, as well. They use that sometimes with objects that EM imagers have trouble penetrating.
That would only work if different tissues emit different intensity, though right? I mean if all of her is equally bright you aren't going to see structure.
Thats basically the inverse of how a normal X-ray works, though- more is blocked where tissue is denser, here more would be produced.
Yeah if denser tissue has higher intensity, you would end up with a negative-reversed X-Ray.
I have to say, this conversation is legitimately fascinating. It actually makes me a little sad that this can't be tested out for real.
Hm…I'm not sure what to think. The underlying idea isn't all that interesting when it boils down to it. However, the writing is so good that it takes an idea that is bland and makes it pull at my heartstrings a little, so you certainly have that going for this skip.
I think I'll upvote it. If this skip doesn't make it, I think you need to take the idea further but otherwise you're set in terms of tone and having a "story" for this SCP. I'm pretty scared for what will happen to her if she continues to grow, though ):
My initial idea was for an SCP who killed without intending to; that is, an SCP who was perfectly friendly and wanted to be around other people but couldn't because it was deadly. An SCP that couldn't understand why it couldn't have friends, or why people always got sick when they were around it, had the potential to be really tragic, or at least that's what I thought. Whether or not the article actually does what I wanted it to, I don't know, I guess that's up to you guys.
I think half of what appealed to me about writing this thing is thinking about what could happen. Can you imagine if she goes into puberty? What's going to happen if she gets her period, and PMS?
Initially, I was going to put something in about that, but I figure it's probably best left to the imagination. I don't think anything I could write is going to be better than what the reader thinks could happen, you know?
Huh. This is basically the same idea as "Rover" from the UIU hub, down to them both being Russian. I assume that's coincidental, but I'm going to headcanon that whatever Soviet project produced Rover in the first place proceeded onto this girl.
No vote.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
Definitely coincidental, I haven't read that one yet.
Technically, she should actually speak Ukrainian, but I felt like that would make her origin too obvious. I wanted to leave it vague so people could make up their own minds about where she came from, instead of forcing my ideas on them. I figure some people are probably going to come to the same conclusion I did, but I feel like not knowing and having people come to their own conclusions about it is more interesting than just outright saying, "She came from X."
I hope that makes sense.
Incidentally, is it okay for me to be responding like this? I don't know what proper discussion etiquette is, but I really want to talk to people about this. It's a learning experience for me, you know?
Honestly man, it doesn't really take much to work out where she comes from.
Chernobyl, right? Most people probably think Chernobyl is Russian anyway, so saying she speaks russian might inadverdently make it more obvious.
Also, yeah your allowed to respond to other's posts on your own skip. Just follow the same rules as when your on other's pages.
I'm not entirely sure that radiation burns are the same as normal burns, but I can't say it for certain. Nonetheless, if her core temperature is 120+, if her outtards are charred black her innards probably would be too. Ignore that, I just realised i'm a fool.
The anomalous effect really isn't very interesting, to be honest. But it's well written, and it succeeded in pulling my heartstrings a bit. Neural vote.
. The normal internal body temperature of SCP-2192 while resting or in a relaxed state is approximately 120°C
If true, this would mean that its blood is literally boiling. I'm not sure you appreciate how hot this is or the consequences it would have.
Trust me, I did a lot of research before hand, and I'm fully aware that 120 degrees is hotter than the boiling point of water.
She can also get as hot as some of the lowest temperatures you would find inside of a nuclear reactor. That was the baseline I used to decide how hot she should be. I chose 400 degrees because I felt like anything hotter was stretching it, not to mention made containment an issue since she could melt lead at that point.
I guess the point is that we aren't talking about someone with normal physiology here. I thought that was obvious, considering the extent of the burns on her body would have killed a normal person.
In short, I don't mind if you don't like it, but yes, I know how hot that is.
It's a gamma source. I suspect that to be incandescent in gamma 120 C is too cold…
EDIT: You would need a blackbody temperature around 6*1011 K, if I did the math right. Which explains why gamma sources aren't black bodies but rather nuclear or elecromagnetic processes, I guess (or in this case a supernatural process).
I think it's pretty clear I don't know nearly enough about radiation. ;P I should have talked to you before I wrote this thing!
Although, it is supernatural (clearly she wouldn't be alive otherwise), so you can get away with a lot more, strictly speaking. I was using the sort of temperatures you would find in a nuclear reactor as a baseline (a little over 400 degrees Celsius at the coolest), but I felt like she couldn't be that hot all the time, or they wouldn't be able to contain her, at least not in the way I had in mind. So, I settled for 120 as the "normal" temp—I felt like that wouldn't stretch the suspension of disbelief too much. I also didn't want to make her seem too powerful, because there was a danger it might turn into one of those SCPs, if you know what I mean.
Tl;DR, I was trying to find a balance between normal temp for something that gave off gamma radiation and what could be realistically contained, as well as the fact that we're talking about a living thing. I don't know if it quite got there, I probably skewed too low, but I hope that gives you some idea of what was going on in my brain at the time.
I liked it, I didn't love it, but liked it. Articles like this reminds me that some ideas, no matter how old and used, can be enjoyable if attacked from the right angle.
I think it has more juice, though. I got the feels, but left thinking that if I had even more empathy for the skip, the ending would be more hearthbreaking.
Anyway, good enough for a +1.
I get what you're saying, I think. At one point, I was thinking about adding an interview between her and a researcher, but I kind of thought that might be too much (or really difficult not to make too sickly saccharine, if you know what I mean).
Plus, this is the first SCP I've written, so I didn't want to get too fancy on my first day out, so to speak.
This needs more of that final note. It needs to come sooner and take up more of the article, because it's about the only thing I really found interesting. Otherwise, as bbaztek said, it's just a radioactive kid. Real-world-wise, that's an unusual, scary thing, but in the SCP-verse, it's kind of standard operating procedure. Some indication of where this is going is warranted.
I do feel like I may want to expand on it in the future, but I don't know. I guess it depends on what people think about it. So far, it's been pretty mixed.
Originally, there was more to the story than just the radiation, but the other stuff didn't really work. I also wasn't sure how far I should push it—I was concerned about making her too powerful and ending up with a "Mary Sue" SCP, you know?
"lonely radioactive kid you can't hug because it'll kill you, ergo feels" is honestly not bad, and the execution is solid, it's just a matter of whether or not it triggers the necessary feels, so there's not much you can do without taking this a whole different direction.
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