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Hello, it is I. This was an absolute pleasure to work on, and writing beside DrAkimoto has opened my eyes to different ways to convey a narrative. But anyway, let's talk about that poem because I'm sure some of you might have questions.
This is a real translation, not Nordic Runes over English text. I translated English, to Icelandic, then into Old Norse. In an admission that will surprise no one, I'm not Icelandic, nor do I speak the language. As such, the translation might be a little iffy in some places.
Here's the Icelandic version:
Vaki, maðr! svikið af Æsir
Suttungrkin, Hvílast á vík kaldur
Skæla, fyrir ljóðlist týndur
Drekka, og muna eiður svarið
Okkar friður lauk á blóðRagnarök laðar
Does it rhyme? Kinda. I then took this and used Medieval Runes to turn it into Norse Runes (Icelandic is the closest language to Old Norse). Let's talk about runes for a second. I'll list them in chronological order.
- Elder Futhark
This is the Grandpappy of runic alphabets. The very original, this bad boi turned into Younger Futhark and Anglo-Saxon futhorc sometime in the late 8th century.
- Younger Futhark
This what the Vikings wrote in and its decline is linked to the end of the Viking Age (8th century to some time in the 12th). There are two distinct versions: Long Branch, used by the Danish, and Short Twig, used by the Swedish and Norwegians.
- Medieval Runes
The son of Younger Futhark, this was a standardized runic alphabet that persisted through 1100-1500. As such, I decided to use it here. (Technically Dalecarlian Runes were used until the 20th century, but only in a small area.)
Now, the runic alphabet doesn't have runes for letters like ý, í, ó, or á, so it's not perfect.
Anyhow! Thanks for attending my rune lesson <3
Hmm. There's something about this which just, doesn't quite click for me? Iunno if it's just that I don't know enough Norse mythology to quite get what is happening here; or if there's just, not enough here for me to really dig this but it feels, lacking?
and its distance
and their distance; its is singular pronoun.
as well as three surface probes equipped with a thermonuclear device with a yield of approximately 30 megatons
I'd rephrase "a thermonuclear device" to "thermonuclear devices" (or perhaps add an explict "each" before equipped?) just to emphasise that all three probes have a thermonuclear device on board.
At this point, the thermonuclear
I'm not a fan of the "At this point" here; I feel like something like "Following this" or something indicating that if the previous thing wasn't successful, they should be detonated?
I'm also gonna suggest you move the image up a little: for me it's overlapping with the first table and it looks, off? I'm also gonna suggest you slightly increase the max width of the tables here (or perhaps centre them in the page?): they're kinda off centre for me and it looks a bit weird when it gets to the last note.
In short, Thor is notorious for basically being the primary adversary of the Jötunn. He murders a lot of Jötunn and is commonly attributed as the only thing keeping the Aesir gods "safe" from them. Lots of stories involve Thor mercilessly slaughtering large numbers of Jötunn, such as massacring everybody in attendance at the marriage of Þrymr, the king of the Jötunn, because Þrymr stole Thor's hammer.
The fridge logic at play here is that Thor slaughtered a family of Jötunn simply for being Jötunn, and he did so in horrific ways, such as bashing a little girl's face in, performing the blood eagle on a young boy, or frying them with his electricity powers. Basically, Thor is a bad fucking dude in the context of this article and that's the main point.
McB is right here. This would be like in Mulan where they find the town burned to the ground and they focus on the doll. It’s to show that Thor is a soulless killer.
Yeah; it doesn't seem like I was missing much here, so I think I just personally don't really dig the coldness/brevity with which this is presented. Like, the article doesn't really give time for me to relate to any of the characters in it because they aren't characters; so it ends up trying to carry the whole piece on shock and it feels, a little flat for me. Possibly I just associate Thor too much with Marvel Thor for me to really manage to process this as horrific as it actually is?
The implied threat of retaliation in the final note feels like it rings a little hollow for me too cos there's the implication that none of the events happened recently. So there's no immediacy to the whole "hey mankind, the Aesir suck. We're gonna fuck them up." thing; and I don't really have a feel for the stakes here.
This all said: clearly the piece does resonate with a lot of people so feel free to not make any changes :3
Original and interesting. SCP's that can't be contained are usually (in my opinion) a hit or miss. Often they're just weird and not very interesting but you did a good job. I like how the bodies are related to the 10th century, and the thought of what made them into satellites and what research they are accomplishing. 10/10
Definitely feel like I'm missing something on this one. I know a reasonable amount about Norse mythology and all I'm getting from this is some dead giants killed in ways that I don't understand the meaning of.
Also, as a minor astrology nitpick, the footnote describing the Phoebe ring would be better if it actually described what the ring was rather than some wikipedia copy/paste. Otherwise, when you talk about the rings of Saturn, people will almost invariably think about the primary rings.
I honestly didn't know there were rings beyond the visible ones until reading about it here. And it seems weird to describe the ring's parameters in terms of radii in the footnote, then use Gm and km during the rest of the entry. I'd also never seen Gm as a unit of measurement until now and it took me a moment to get oriented…
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