Billith's Proposal / Discussion

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Billith 23 Aug 2019 00:38

Ice age, heat wave, can't complain

If the world's at large, why should I remain?

Walked away to another planet

Gonna find another place, maybe one I can stand

I like songs about drifters, books about the same

They both seem to make me feel a little less insane

Walked on off to another spot

I still haven't gotten anywhere that I want

Did I want love? Did I need to know?

Why does it always feel like I'm caught in an undertow?

Sorry everyone but it deserves a fresh shot at life, no 001 should be under +100 Thank you! More coming.

This rewrite should allow it to stand on its own, regardless of the tale situation. But I just need to tweak some things on those and we'll be golden too :)

There should be enough hints and implications to figure out what's happening on a larger scale.

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local narrative map

• There are multiple real-life events and mythologies this corresponds to, check the links and various easter eggs.
• The cryo-chamber contains who the New Earth Foundation would call The Founder, but they aren't the Founder. The true founder had something else in mind when they started the Foundation
• The notes at the end indicate everything was orchestrated by the Foundation or a Foundation-associated organization, but this part of the Foundation has transcended or ascended to the point where [QUERY:DENIED]
• We don't know how many times this has occurred but they seemed awfuly prepared for disaster given the (several) billion-year-old generation ships
• since 1548 is not a part of this story any more (tale notwithstanding at the moment), you can speculate what thing is chasing them. It's pretty obvious if you know where to look (or where not to)
• The Foundation studied and used anomalies instead of fearing them and containing them from the world. There is no masquerade on Earth Prime. This is explained in more detail in Richard Larenz Personal Log and A Place to Call Your Home (which is undergoing its own rewrite atm)
• Netzach is the 7th sefirot (the same that brings yesod, keter, etc)- 7th sefirot - 7 gods of Sumerian mythos - Literally means "eternity" - 50 immortal children, —naki being the annunaki, etc etc
• The Deity spoken about is elaborated in UE-54701/SCP-2759. None of the humans on the ships are immortal. The members of [spoilers] are cursed with ununhealthy.
• The Foundation is being duped here, as usual.

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Staff Post - Open

Elenee FishTruck 23 Aug 2019 01:03

The images used in this article are currently unsourced, and therefore may be a violation of the SCP wiki's license (CC BY-SA 3.0). If you can provide the source for the images, then I will determine whether they are cc-compliant or not. If they are, then the images will stay. If they aren't, the images will go.

(Also, while you're at it, can you source the image used in A Place To Call Your Home as well?)

EDIT: The images have been sourced for both articles and are cc-compliant.

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Re: Staff Post - Open

Billith 23 Aug 2019 01:06

idk what you're talking about, check the collapsible homeslice

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rattles 23 Aug 2019 02:47

kewl

Billith 23 Aug 2019 02:57

Thanks!

Westrin 23 Aug 2019 17:58

very very glad to see this back. +1

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Billith 23 Aug 2019 21:57

<3 thanks for the kind words

Connor MacWarren 23 Aug 2019 20:05

Bill (ith) Nye saves The World.

Billith 23 Aug 2019 21:58

_{science rules}

Maybe I'm just confused

Aceofmoxes 23 Aug 2019 20:09

There's a lot of this article that doesn't make sense to me.

the Altruist-9 was constructed with a faster-than-light (FTL) drive and high efficiency solar sails.

Why bother with solar sails if you also have FTL? Solar sails have a top speed that's under .1% of lightspeed. Most FLT systems aren't additive with non-FTL tech, either. Is it supposed to 'jump' through to the target, then float around the star system? It sounds like it crashes and was always meant to crash.

Who is in the cryo camber? Who contacted the foundation through the wormhole? Was O₂-less Earth home to a foundation that studied anomalies in the wild, without containment? But they didn't let the man who hated anomalies out.

Re: Maybe I'm just confused

Billith 23 Aug 2019 20:43

spoilers

• FTL travel has its fair share of issues. The exotic matter emits a quantized field and FTL travel doesn't change that, it's the other way around. The solar sails provide means of charging and for local travel that doesn't need the unnecessary power
• what do you mean by "aren't additive"? FTL drives don't really exist afaik, and in the realm of fantasy, having additional means to control the ship more accurately is not unheard of
• It was meant to crash only if the wormhole reappears
• The cryo-chamber contains who the New Earth Foundation considers The Founder but not really the true Founder as they are off-world. They also have different views on anomalies
• The notes at the end indicate everything was orchestrated by the Foundation or similarorganization, but this Foundation has transcended.
• The O2 thing relates to the great oxygenation event of our planet which happened 2ish billion years ago.
• The Foundation studied and used anomalies instead of fearing them and containing them from the world. There is no masquerade on Earth Prime. This is explained in more detail in Richard Larenz Personal Log and A Place to Call Your Home

Any other questions?

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+1

(account deleted) 23 Aug 2019 20:57

Damn, the new 001 proposals this year look better than I thought!

Re: +1

Billith 23 Aug 2019 21:56

I appreciate it! I am giving quite a few articles makeovers - SCP-2759 being the prettiest so far imo

Dr Astari 24 Aug 2019 15:16

I see you with that callback to a rather infamous lizard ಠ‿↼
Anyways, good stuff, +1 all around!

Billith 24 Aug 2019 23:42

I appreciate it. I wish I knew why it was being downvoted so much.

Pedantique 25 Aug 2019 04:15

I hate to sound like I'm beating a dead horse since I've posted largely the same thing on other postings of this article, but since you asked: I think the article takes too long to get off the ground, the extremely truncated transcripts are kind of tiresome to deal with, and the ultimate conclusion of the article doesn't hit me emotionally or otherwise. It feels like too much extraneous setup, which I imagine relates to your broader planned cannon, but is not an enjoyable reading experience.

There's not much you can do about my personal preferences obviously, but I would still strongly recommend reconsidering the volume of garbled logs at the start if nothing else.

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Billith 25 Aug 2019 04:39

I appreciate the feedback, honestly I would rather have this than nothing. I'll take a look at what I can do, although it would be hard to justify 100% comprehension of a billion year old alien language (when it was completely written and similar to English there was people complaining about that too so idk). Maybe I'll make the spoken language cognitohazards like the written language.

As far as setup goes, it specifically departs from the original in terms of reliance on related materials. It pretty much explains the overarching plot in the notes, but maybe I'm just not seeing how badly it's written(?)

Pedantique 25 Aug 2019 04:48

If you’re attached to the text formatting, there could also be less text in that section overall. Making my way through it just felt like I was being forced to endure something unpleasant to get to the rest of the story. People who enjoy deciphering things more may feel differently.

Also, I don’t entirely remember the last version’s structure, and this does stand on its own as a piece, but it still gave me the impression that there was supposed to be much more to come on top of it later. That may be a reflection of the fact that I know you planned addition content in this setting. Either way, something can still stand on its own while introducing so many new things to be explore that it feels more introductory than anything else, and I think this falls into that category.

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RJB_R 25 Aug 2019 22:53

Presentation is slick but the parts don’t add up to a cohesive whole. The forum stuff linked on the footnotes was interesting but took me out of the article which is bad for a piece trying as hard as this one is to be immersive. I’m holding 001’s to the highest standard I can on the site, so this I have to downvote.

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Billith 26 Aug 2019 03:57

Thanks for the feedback, I'm already reworking some things given your and Pedantique's suggestions. I suppose I could remove the forum link, although it could still be presented as in-universe (as long as that doesn't get everyone in the thread retroactively banned for role-playing) ;P

i might just be an idiot but i don't get it

monsterjealousy 15 Mar 2020 00:15

i don't really understand what's going on here (other than there being two earths, one of which has a Foundation that utilizes instead of contains anomalous artifacts). seems like there's an implication of some omnipotent force that's guiding the universe (probably one of the most overused tropes in existence), and stuff about a form of life that doesn't use oxygen? i'm sorta lost.

Re: i might just be an idiot but i don't get it

NoName2087 09 Mar 2021 18:57

The "life without oxygen" refers to the humans living on the "First Earth" who didn't rely on oxygen to survive.

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