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Cute, and I really like this a lot more than I feel like I should, but what in the heck is that second document for? If it's collaborative, I'd like to know what about it would be collaborative and for testing.
EDIT: Reading it again, it doesn't really grab me or continue to hold my interest like it did to start with. I'm gonna no-vote.
Cute, and I really like this a lot more than I feel like I should, but what in the heck is that second document for?
As it says in the Special Containment Sonnet, SCP-2673 requires periodic maintenance.
If it's collaborative, I'd like to know what about it would be collaborative and for testing.
You are supposed to write a poem about containing 2673 (I wrote a prose version of the instructions in the comments for clarity).
+1, love it, amazing, poetry is awesome. While the flow of some sections is slightly awkward to read, and the rhyming couplets of just lines 1 and 4 of each stanza is slightly offputting, it is really nicely written anyway, and downvoting just because it's a poem structure that I find slightly off would just be pathetic. Take my upvotes, dammit.
EDIT: Also, I like the idea of a collab log for the linked thing, with us contributing poems, although you might want to make it more clear that is what they do.
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
While the flow of some sections is slightly awkward to read,
The bane of English narrative poetry, I'm afraid and I'm a hack.
and the rhyming couplets of just lines 1 and 4 of each stanza is slightly offputting,
Well it's actually ABCA DBCD…QRRQ, and yes it's a weird scheme, but I wanted to try it out.
EDIT: Also, I like the idea of a collab log for the linked thing, with us contributing poems, although you might want to make it more clear that is what they do.
Is there anything in particular I need to clarify? I wrote both verse and prose versions of the instructions (and three examples).
This is pretty much a gimmick article that's just going to end up in reams and reams of mediocre collaborative poetry. There's pretty much nothing going on here but a basic memetic hazard jazzed up with verse (which I get the feeling is supposed to be blank verse, but doesn't scan all that well), and all the actual content piggybacks off SCP-2264.
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There's pretty much nothing going on here but a basic memetic hazard jazzed up with verse
Well, yes. On the other hand, I feel like if I had written a complicated concept in verse, I'd lose 90% of the audience.
which I get the feeling is supposed to be blank verse
The anti-meme is supposed to be a bit of a Carrol homage, the containment procedures are supposed to be a sonnet, and no the description isn't supposed to be blank verse. It does have a rhyme scheme (ABCA DBCD…QRRQ). It is supposed to (roughly) be in iambic pentameter but I took some liberties with scansion (which isn't that weird in English narrative poems).
I'm not sure how you are missing all the rhymes, though.
but doesn't scan all that well
Yes, I know. Sorry. I am a hack, I'm afraid. It scans as well as I could make it. The sonnet, at least, I think scans well.
and all the actual content piggybacks off SCP-2264.
I have no idea why that should be a bad thing.
I said 'blank verse' when I meant 'iambic pentameter'. Sorry for the confusion. My criticism about the metre stands.
I have no idea why this should be a bad thing.
If you can't see why it's a bad thing to create a skip the content of which is almost entirely ripped from someone else's work, does nothing new with it, and which has little life of its own other than a basic memetic hazard and a format screw, I'm afraid I just can't understand your creative process or creative aspirations at all.
I get the feeling that most of criticisms aren't things that you're willing to address. I suppose that just leaves it up to the popular vote to decide (and they seem to be siding with you). I just think this article seems like a half-effort that could stand to be improved, and I wish you'd gone further and tried for more than you did, both conceptually and technically.
My criticism about the metre stands.
Sorry, I'll see if I can make it scan better.
If you can't see why it's a bad thing to create a skip the content of which is almost entirely ripped from someone else's work, does nothing new with it, and which has little life of its own other than a basic memetic hazard and a format screw, I'm afraid I just can't understand your creative process or creative aspirations at all.
I'm sorry. I didn't really approach this from this direction. Instead I wanted to write a skip that had to be in verse, the Marlowe connection came later as I developed it.
I get the feeling that most of criticisms aren't things that you're willing to address.
No, I'd like to, so long as I can do so without losing most of the audience, anyway.
I just think this article seems like a half-effort that could stand to be improved, and I wish you'd gone further and tried for more than you did, both conceptually and technically.
The draft was available for several days, those that commented on it were positive. Certainly had you addressed this in the thread, I would have been receptive.
EDIT: Fixed the scansion in two lines…
and all the actual content piggybacks off SCP-2264.
I have no idea why that should be a bad thing.
It isn't, as long as it stands on its own- then its lore building rather than coattail riding. Personally I upvoted before the connection even clicked for me.
Agreeing with Rioghail. I'm just not feeling much from this article that could be more than what it is on the surface.
Ouch. I suppose I felt that an alien creature that lives in language, has one host at time, causes rebellious self-destructive behavior (like say, being an atheist (or maybe Catholic) and a spy, while being a famous playwright), jumps to the last person to have received communication (spoken or print) from the last host, can be slowed (but not stopped) by verse, requires additional verse over time to maintain containment and requires memetic countermeasures to be fully contained was a sufficiently complex concept to tell in six different poems in six different forms.
Perhaps the containment maintenance log can be used to add additional layers to the concept.
My opinion. I get to decide what appeals to me and what doesn't. No need to be snarky.
Wasn't trying to be snarky, sorry. I was being honest. I really thought that was complex enough (and I really think that maybe the containment log can be used to add layers, if that's what you want).
Glad to see this finally went up. Quite like it. I'll see if I can't cook something up for the collaborative log.
Ugh, another poetry SCP? How many does that make now?
-1, there are more original gimmicks out there, I recommend using one of them.
if your reading this your gay
I will admit this: If not for the fact that the poetic form is used to constrain the SCP and chance for collaboration, I would've downvoted. At this rate, poem SCPs may grow into another cliche.
2 + points and 1 - point = Upvote nonetheless.
I still wonder what would happen if a free verse is used instead.
I only upvoted cause I'm a theater nerd and I immediately caught onto the iambic pentameter.
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