this is exactly the sort of almost-insipidly-subtle "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"/"The Thing"-Others "WTFery" that I absolutely love.
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Thanks to Decibelles, thedeadlymoose, djkaktus, tahunu, Anborough, NineOfSpades, and a lot more people whose names escape me right now — sorry! — for repeated, thorough feedback in chat.
I don't get it. It's interesting, I realize it's connected to the "Children of the Torch" SCPs, and the mystery is great, so I upvoted, but I don't get it.
"Children of the Torch"? I actually have no idea what that is! Clearly I've got some reading to do. :D
I can offer some spoilers if you like, but they'll still be vague. Don't want to overdo it.
"Children of the Torch"? I actually have no idea what that is! Clearly I've got some reading to do. :D
That's surprising. Given the sun theme, the 108 in the number and the reference to crows and ravens affecting it, I thought this was part of the same story as SCP-1428, SCP-2814 and SCP-2995.
I can offer some spoilers if you like, but they'll still be vague. Don't want to overdo it.
Vague is fine. Go ahead.
…Huh. I just read those skips, and I swear I didn't do that on purpose. The corvids are just a well-established symbol, an omen. The 108 in the number was purely the accident of which slot was open when I went to post.
But hey, there is no canon! Apparently I've accidentally added to the Children of the Torch storyline! Cool. :D
This thing is the shadow of another world's sun — a star from some other reality whose light and image are leaking into our own.
Sunlight is a defining force, metaphorically speaking (and in metaphysics and magic, metaphors have power). Light makes vision possible; shadows define the edges of things. Solar cycles give us our seasons, dictate many of our activities, shape our very perception of time. The spectrum of a star defines the niches in which photoautotrophs might evolve to make a living under it; those autotrophs, in turn, define the shapes of biospheres.
Standing in the light of another sun… well, that has the power to redefine.
The dry scientific detail lends greatly to the verisimilitude. What is the children of the torch mentioned in the comment above, by the way. Is it related?
While I'm not keen on those experiment logs (they aren't as controlled or thorough as I'd expect someone of your background would have written) or an object that mutates things, I do like stars.
Yeah, I've definitely written better experiment logs. These aren't intended to be very thorough, though: since the number and mass of converted organisms influences the thing's position, it's meant to be rather difficult to get clearance for testing. They want as little chance of it suddenly going walkabout as possible.
So.. what I'm getting from this is it's a anti-sun, that turns people into plant people?
Upvoted.
Have a boy!
I just noticed SCP-2975 is also called "Another Sun" I commented on it there as well.
Just a technical note regarding Footnote 2:
Specifically, the speed of transformation is proportional to the total SCP-2108-A dose and to the inverse cube of the time over which it was applied.
What this literally says is that the rate of transformation (R), is proportional (k) to the total energy received (E) divided by the cube of time it was received over (T).
R = k * E / T^3
The total energy will be the rate of energy transfer, joules (E) per second (T), which are watts (W), multiplied by time. E = W * T
R = k * W * T / T^3 = k * W / T^2
Assuming any given power output for the star, we've got a scenario where the rate of transformation DECREASES the longer one is exposed, regardless of the total exposure amount.
Didn't want to correct this myself as it may be stylistic. But you describe the corona as "0.5m-6m" deep. I read this as "Half a meter to 6 meters deep." Did you mean that, or did you mean '0.5m-0.6m deep"?
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